Hello Dr. Selis:
My name is Dawn Suter.  I am originally from NYC but now have been living
in Zurich, Switzerland for 8 years :-).  I also have a small company
focused on helping Educators and Students use technology in the classroom
K-8.  Our introduction for "Adventures in Robotics" workshops are given
freely to the public schools in the Zurich area, and we also offer an
after-school program all centered around the Thymio II robot :-).

I would welcome a trans-Atlantic collaboration, please reach out to me
directly and lets discuss further :-)

I am surprised at your breakage level and wanted to comment on our
experience.  During the last 2 years we reached over 1500+ students with
our workshop, and most our Thymios have seen over 2200 hours of use.  Out
of our inventory of 40 units we have had 3 repairs required, two were with
wheels not turning and the other was the microphone separated from the
circuit board and needed to be resoldered.

I have some suggestions for you that might help mitigate your issues when
working with young students:
1)  We charge the Thymios ourselves prior to any workshop.  The battery
lasts over 3 hours and we've found it to be not necessary to charge them
during the course of our classes, only prior.

2)  We now program our Thymios with the wireless dongle - no wire
eliminates the need for the child to continuously plug in and out the USB
cable, plus the active connection is not lost with VPL as it would be
normally when unplugging the USB cable to test out the latest program:-)

I hope this is helpful,

Kind Regards,
Dawn

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Dear Dr.Selis,

 I comment your point under:


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2016-08-22 20:51 GMT+02:00 Dr. Allen Selis <[email protected]>:

> Friends,
>
> For those who have not met me (virtually), I'm Allen Selis and I run a
> company that teaches engineering and coding skills for N. American
> children.  We are based in Dallas, TX and growing.
>
>
> #1 - An offer for kids' collaboration.
> We are working with several schools across Dallas with children age 5-9.
> If you would like to arrange a trans-Atlantic collaboration with your
> students and some of ours, I can put you in touch with our staff.
>

I will talk around to see if somebody is interest.


>
> #2- Build feedback.
> We have been using Thymio robots with students for two years now and have
> some user/design feedback that might resonate with others.
>
> *First,* the most likely hardware failure point for the wired Thymio
> robots is the micro USB connect point at the back of the robot.  We have
> several robots where children have damaged the usb connect so that it no
> longer is flush with its circuit board, breaking the circuit.
> Suggestion:   The robots would be more durable if the female micro usb
> port were built into the plastic frame of the body, then wired in to the
> master board in the same way that the speaker is.
>

I have already see some damages like you describe, with good soldering
skills it is possible to repair most time the connector, some time a pad is
broken, but it is possible to put a small wire to fix that.
The USB female port is directly soldered on the PCB, having a wired female
could make some problem of signal or EMC. For a next version we can find
perhaps a more robust one to better fix it (glue, plastic casing) so that
external effort do not damage the PCB.



> *Second,* the next most likely failure is battery.  Thymio's build makes
> it difficult to swap batteries and it does not help that the LiPo battery
> is taped/glued in to the floor of the 'bot.
> Suggestion:  A Velcro attach would not hurt. A battery change port might
> be an option too.  One related problem of the Thymio build is that the
main
> body is secured by metal screws that attach to plastic posts.  After
> opening the robot once, it's almost impossible to re-attach the plastic
> shell snugly.  A metal nut on the receiving side that allowed a flat metal
> bolt to close the bot would help.
>

The Velcro is a good idea, I will ask the manufacturer. On last
productions, the taped is more small so that it is easier to change. A
battery port can make problems for certifications. For the screw normally
we used special screw for plastic and most time I re-attach them without
problems. A overmolded plastic nut is not impossible but I think the
over-cost is not justifiable for open the robot each two years to change
the battery.


> We continue to love our Thymios, but find that we lose about 15% of our
> fleet each year to this kind of breakage/part failure.  Love to make it
> easier to fix these.
>

 I am glad that you love Thymio. Loosing 15% seems me to much with
experience we have here, probably you use them a lot and this is a good
news! If you can perhaps send us back we can see if it possible to repair
them.

Best regards

Michael Bonani


Association Mobsya
Ch. du Closel 5
1020 Renens


>
> Best to all,
>
> Allen Selis
> Director,  Tech EdVentures
> www.techedventures.com
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