Hey guys?  All this information is great, but please try to remove extra
text (like the entire content of an article which could be linked, or 11
messages and a table of contents from a digest note) when possible.  Not
everyone has great big broadband internet service.

That said, I like Dean's answer (well, both of them) best :)

Cheers,

Peter

On 12/19/05, Chakri K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Buddy,
>
>   Ever happened to visit Google Maps or Google Suggest ? Its a web
> application mixed with rich presentation features of Desktop Application.
> Google Maps is an application
>   one of its kind. Most User friendly, Informative and Exhaustive. This
> web application
>   is developed using Ajax. Ajax is not a Technology. Ajax is an approach
> of using existing applications (XML, Javascript, Flash, C#, Java etc) in a
> best suited way to present to the richness of desktop architecture over the
> Web.
>     Defining Ajax  Ajax isn't a technology. It's really several
> technologies, each flourishing in its own right, coming together in powerful
> new ways. Ajax incorporates:
>
>
>    standards-based presentation using XHTML and CSS;
>    dynamic display and interaction using the DOM
>    data interchange and manipulation using XML and XSLT
>    asynchronous data retrieval using XMLHttpRequest
>    and Javascript binding everything together.
>
>   Legacy web applications submit forms by trigerring HTTP request back to
> the Web Server. The web server does the required processing with the data,
> and responds by sending a new HTML page back. Because the server must send a
> whole new page each time, applications run more slowly and awkwardly than
> their native counterparts.
>
>   on the other hand, Instead of loading a webpage, at the start of the
> session, the browser loads an Ajax engine — written in JavaScript and
> usually tucked away in a hidden frame. This engine is responsible for both
> rendering the interface the user sees and communicating with the server on
> the user's behalf. The Ajax engine allows the user's interaction with the
> application to happen asynchronously — independent of communication with the
> server. So the user is never staring at a blank browser window and an
> hourglass icon, waiting around for the server to do something
>
>   Ajax Hype
>
>   Ajax is also a dangerous technology for web developers, its power
> introduces a huge amount of UI problems as well as server side state
> problems and server load problems
>   Its not an approach meant to be implemented with every web Application.
> The requirements of your application should match the approach of Ajax.
>
>   Using Ajax for the sake of Ajax
> Sure Ajax is cool, and developers love to play with cool technology, but
> Ajax is a tool not a toy. A lot of the new Ajax applications are really just
> little toys, not developed for any real purpose, just experiments in what
> Ajax can do or trying to fit Ajax somewhere where it isn't needed. Toys
> might be fun for a little while, but toys are not useful applications.
>
>   Sending sensitive information in the clear
> The security of AJAX applications is subject to the same rules as any web
> application, except that once you can talk asynchronously to the server, you
> may tend to write code that is a very chatty in a potentially insecure way.
> All traffic must be vetted to make sure security is not compromised
>
>   Assuming AJAX development is single platform development
> Ajax development is multi-platform development. Ajax code
> will run on IE's javascript engine, Rhino (Mozilla's js engine), or
> other minor engines that may grow into major engines. So it's not
> enough just to code to JavaScript standards, there needs to be
> real-world thorough testing as well. A major obstacle in any serious
> Javascript development is IE's buggy JS implementation
>
>   Too much code makes the browser slow
> Ajax introduces a way to make much more interesting javascript
> applications, unfortunately interesting often means more code running. More
> code running means more work for the browser, which means that for some
> javascript intensive websites, especially poorly coded ones, you need to
> have a powerful CPU to keep the functionality zippy. The CPU problem has
> actually been a limit on javascript functionality in the past, and just
> because computers have gotten faster doesn't mean the problem has
> disappeared.
>
> Blinking and changing parts of the page unexpectedly
> The first A in Ajax stands for asynchronous. The problem with asynchronous
> messages is that they can be quite confusing when they are pop in
> unexpectedly. Asynchronous page changes should only ever occur in narrowly
> defined places and should be used judiciously, flashing and blinking in
> messages in areas I don't want to concentrate on harkens back to days of the
> html blink tag.
>
>   Not using links I can pass to friends or bookmark
> Another great feature of websites is that I can pass URLs to other people
> and they can see the same thing that I'm seeing. I can also bookmark an
> index into my site navigation and come back to it later. Javascript, and
> thus Ajax applications, can cause huge problems for this model of use. Since
> the Javascript is dynamically generating the page instead of the server, the
> URL is cut out of the loop and can no longer be used as an index into
> navigation. This is a very unfortunate feature to lose, many Ajax webapps
> thoughtfully include specially constructed permalinks for this exact reason.
>
>   Scrolling the page and making me lose my place
> Another problem with popping text into a running page is that it can
> effect the page scroll. I may be happily reading an article or paging
> through a long list, and an asynchronous javascript request will decide to
> cut out a paragraph way above where I'm reading, cutting my reading flow
> off. This is obviously annoying and it wastes my time trying to figure out
> my place
>
>   Blocking Spidering
> Ajax applications that load large amounts of text without a reload can
> cause a big problem for search engines. This goes back to the URL problem.
> If users can come in through search engines, the text of the application
> needs to be somewhat static so that the spiders can read it.
>
>   Asynchronously performing batch operations
> Sure with Ajax you can make edits to a lot of form fields happen
> immediately, but that can cause a lot of problems. For example if I check
> off a lot of check boxes that are each sent asynchronously to the server, I
> lose my ability to keep track of the overall state of checkbox changes and
> the flood of checkbox change indications will be annoying and disconcerting
>
>
>   Finally my intention is not to say that Ajax is not useful. Surely Ajax
> approach is making miracles in Web World. But, the implementation of Ajax is
> to made quite consciously.
>
>   Where Ajax Fits in
>
>   Ajax fits into application where the website is
>
>   Form driven interaction- Subset:Linked Select Menus.
>   Deep hierarchical tree navigation
>   Rapid user-to-user communication
>   Voting, Yes/No boxes, Ratings submissions.
>   Filtering and involved data manipulation
>   Commonly entered text hints/autocompletion
>   Long Running Queries/Remote Calls
>
>   Hope this information is usefull to you along with one and all.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Avinash
>
>
>
> Prashanth Ganesh Rayakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Could anybody give me a brief info about what is ajax all about?
> I have never heard of it before.
>
>
> thanks & regards,
>
> Prashanth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AspNetAnyQuestionIsOk] Digest Number 1439
>
>
> There are 11 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. RE: im fresher to AsP.NET
>            From: "Gilbert Sauceda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       2. How to handle Mails inside my website
>            From: ramesh kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       3. RE: im fresher to AsP.NET
>            From: "Kumar, Karthick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       4. Please help
>            From: ramesh kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       5. how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>            From: faisal dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       6. hi
>            From: anu radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       7. [HELP] ASP.NET with C#
>            From: "Sunand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       8. RE: [HELP] ASP.NET with C#
>            From: "Falls, Travis D (HTSC, CASD)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       9. Re: how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>            From: Peter Brunone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      10. Re: how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>            From: Peter Brunone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      11. Auto Date advancing
>            From: "sicsemper99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:27:25 -0800
>    From: "Gilbert Sauceda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: im fresher to AsP.NET
>
> You need to learn basics first, then worry about ASP.Net.
>
> There are many sites online.
> You can google tutorials for each technology, or just do a general
> search
> for "web development". Here are some technologies that you want to learn
> as
> basics:
> HTML
> DHTML
> Javascript
> CSS
> ASP.Net
>
> This is a good site that has tutorials on different techs:
> http://www.w3schools.com/
>
>
> /Gil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of csvinayak
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AspNetAnyQuestionIsOk] im fresher to AsP.NET
>
>
> how do i start learning ASP.NET
>
> coz i m new into this field
>
> i want to start from Scratch
>
> can anyone help me please ,
>
> so where do i start from
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:39:21 -0800 (PST)
>    From: ramesh kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: How to handle Mails inside my website
>
> Hi all,
>
>   I m developing a website where users can register and post his
> comments about the produts. In this i ve a functionality where a user
> can contact the other user by sending a message. this is like a mail
> functionality where each individual user has the options to send a
> message,inbox, deleted items. Please give me some suggestions on how to
> do it and please recommend some articles where i can get the information
> on this .
>
>
>   Thanks
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Shopping
> Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:02:13 -0000
>    From: "Kumar, Karthick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: im fresher to AsP.NET
>
> Go to "Getting Started" in www.asp.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of csvinayak
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AspNetAnyQuestionIsOk] im fresher to AsP.NET
>
>
> how do i start learning ASP.NET
>
> coz i m new into this field
>
> i want to start from Scratch
>
> can anyone help me please ,
>
> so where do i start from
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:26:06 -0800 (PST)
>    From: ramesh kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Please help
>
> Hi all,
>
>   I' m building a mail functionality where a registered user can post a
> message to another registered user.I m storing all the values in a
> database and when the user enters into his inbox, the mails which are in
> his name will be displayed. i ve done this using datagrid. Now i need to
> add a checkbox to each and every message that is displayed and that
> checkbox shoul ve the messageid value also.
>
>   inbox.aspx
>
>     <%@ Page Language="C#" AutoEventWireup="true"
> CodeFile="inbox.aspx.cs" Inherits="inbox" %>
>   <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
>   <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; >
>   <head runat="server">
>   <title>Untitled Page</title>
>   </head>
>   <body>
>   <form id="form1" runat="server">
>   <div>
>   <asp:GridView ID="DataList1" runat="server">
>   </asp:GridView>
>   </div>
>   </form>
>   </body>
>   </html>
>
>   using System;
>   using System.Data;
>   using System.Configuration;
>   using System.Collections;
>   using System.Web;
>   using System.Web.Security;
>   using System.Web.UI;
>   using System.Web.UI.WebControls;
>   using System.Web.UI.WebControls.WebParts;
>   using System.Web.UI.HtmlControls;
>   using System.Data.SqlClient;
>   public partial class inbox : System.Web.UI.Page
>   {
>   protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
>   {
>   string user;
>   user = Session["User"].ToString();
>   SqlConnection con = new
> SqlConnection("server=localhost;database=Northwind;uid=sa;pwd=server;");
>   string query = "select messageid,messagefrom,mailsubject,receivedtime
> from mailsreceived where mailto='" + user + "'";
>   SqlCommand cmd = new SqlCommand(query, con);
>   SqlDataAdapter adap = new SqlDataAdapter(cmd);
>   DataSet ds = new DataSet();
>   adap.Fill(ds, "Mails");
>   DataList1.DataSource = ds.Tables["Mails"];
>   DataList1.DataBind();
>   }
>   }
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Shopping
> Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:58:29 -0800 (PST)
>    From: faisal dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>
> I want to refresh my web page without Postback event.
>
> I mean via using ajax but how?
>
> Actually, I Have a page with menu, when first time my
> page will load it will load from the server, but for
> the next time if i click on the menu, it will load
> from the cache of client.
>
> This is possible via ajax, but I need some sample code
> to implement it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> DAR
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:45:29 +0000 (GMT)
>    From: anu radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: hi
>
>   hi fridzzz
>    i have one small issue
>               how can we place linklabel in datagrid in windows
> application (c#.net)
>   plzz anyone knows reply me
>   bye
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:14:20 -0000
>    From: "Sunand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [HELP] ASP.NET with C#
>
> Hello,
>
> I am Sunand, working as programmer in a software company. Can some one
> please suggest me a good book for ASP.NET with C# (using Visual Studio
> or notepad/webmatrix). Actually I am well versed with ASP.NET with
> VB.NET, but now I want to shift to C#.
>
> If possible kindly mail information regarding publisher and cost also,
> as it would be of great help to me in procuring the book at the
> earliest.
>
> Waiting for an early reply.
>
> Regards,
> Sunand
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:49:37 -0500
>    From: "Falls, Travis D (HTSC, CASD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [HELP] ASP.NET with C#
>
> Sunard,
> If you are well versed in ASP.Net and VB.Net I would simply use the
> tuturials online at www.asp.net to learn the syntax.  I didn't know the
> frame work, or even VB before learning C# and that is all I used.  It
> saved some money in the beginning for me.  Just a thought.  If you have
> a Java background (which I did) C# is not really that different.
>
> Travis D. Falls | Consultant   RAFT.Net   IT | 860.547.4070 |
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunand
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AspNetAnyQuestionIsOk] [HELP] ASP.NET with C#
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am Sunand, working as programmer in a software company. Can some one
> please suggest me a good book for ASP.NET with C# (using Visual Studio
> or notepad/webmatrix). Actually I am well versed with ASP.NET with
> VB.NET, but now I want to shift to C#.
>
> If possible kindly mail information regarding publisher and cost also,
> as it would be of great help to me in procuring the book at the
> earliest.
>
> Waiting for an early reply.
>
> Regards,
> Sunand
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:07:08 -0600
>    From: Peter Brunone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>
> Oops... I should add that after this line:
>
>     if (myRequest.readyState==4) {
>
> you grab the myRequest.ResponseText property, which will have the data
> from
> the server.
>
>
> On 12/15/05, Peter Brunone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, the question everyone is asking these days!
> >
> > Here is some basic code that will let you make an ajax call from IE
> and
> > Mozilla.  I'm sure if you google on "ajax request" you'll get a lot
> more
> > information.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > var myRequest;
> > var sRequestPath = "
> > http://whereverthisis.com/myinfopage.aspx?somevar=this&othervar=that";;
> >
> > if (window.XMLHttpRequest) {
> >     //alert("Firefox: Sending request to \n" + sRequestPath); //
> Debugging
> >     myRequest = new XMLHttpRequest();
> >     myRequest.overrideMimeType('text/xml');
> >     }
> > else if (window.ActiveXObject) {
> >     //alert("IE: Sending request to \n" + sRequestPath); // Debugging
> >     myRequest = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
> >     }
> > myRequest.onreadystatechange = function() {
> >     if (myRequest.readyState==4) {
> >         }
> >     }
> >
> > myRequest.open('GET', sRequestPath, true);
> > myRequest.send(null);
> >
> >
> > On 12/15/05, faisal dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to refresh my web page without Postback event.
> > >
> > > I mean via using ajax but how?
> > >
> > > Actually, I Have a page with menu, when first time my
> > > page will load it will load from the server, but for
> > > the next time if i click on the menu, it will load
> > > from the cache of client.
> > >
> > > This is possible via ajax, but I need some sample code
> > > to implement it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > DAR
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:06:17 -0600
>    From: Peter Brunone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: how to implement ajax to refresh a web page
>
> Ah, the question everyone is asking these days!
>
> Here is some basic code that will let you make an ajax call from IE and
> Mozilla.  I'm sure if you google on "ajax request" you'll get a lot more
> information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> var myRequest;
> var sRequestPath = "
> http://whereverthisis.com/myinfopage.aspx?somevar=this&othervar=that";;
>
> if (window.XMLHttpRequest) {
>     //alert("Firefox: Sending request to \n" + sRequestPath); //
> Debugging
>     myRequest = new XMLHttpRequest();
>     myRequest.overrideMimeType('text/xml');
>     }
> else if (window.ActiveXObject) {
>     //alert("IE: Sending request to \n" + sRequestPath); // Debugging
>     myRequest = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
>     }
> myRequest.onreadystatechange = function() {
>     if (myRequest.readyState==4) {
>         }
>     }
>
> myRequest.open('GET', sRequestPath, true);
> myRequest.send(null);
>
>
> On 12/15/05, faisal dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I want to refresh my web page without Postback event.
> >
> > I mean via using ajax but how?
> >
> > Actually, I Have a page with menu, when first time my
> > page will load it will load from the server, but for
> > the next time if i click on the menu, it will load
> > from the cache of client.
> >
> > This is possible via ajax, but I need some sample code
> > to implement it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > DAR
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
>    Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:35:05 -0000
>    From: "sicsemper99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Auto Date advancing
>
> I have this page for tracking accidents and would like to have the
> "Number of days since last accident" and Number of days since last
> recordable" to add a new day to the count each day that references
> "Date of last accident" and "Date of last recordable" using the
> computers clock. This was as each day passes the information is always
> up to date. How could I do this. Here's the Page:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]"JAVASCRIPT" CODEPAGE="1252"%>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
> <head>
> <title>PWT Accident Stats</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"
> />
> <style type="text/css">
> <!--
> body,td,th {
> color: #000000;
> }
> body {
> background-color: #CCCCCC;
> }
> a:link {
> color: #0000FF;
> }
> a:visited {
> color: #FF00FF;
> }
> a:hover {
> color: #FF0000;
> }
> -->
> </style></head>
>
> <body>
> <FORM>
> <br/>
>
> <table width="406" height="66" border="3" cellpadding="3"
> cellspacing="3">
> <tr>
> <td width="199"><strong>Date of last accident:</strong> </td>
> <td width="186"><input name="DOLA" onchange="doCalc(this);"/> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td><strong>Date of last recordable:</strong>  </td>
> <td><INPUT Name="DOLR" onChange="doCalc(this);"> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
> <hr />
> <table width="407" height="63" border="3" cellpadding="3"
> cellspacing="3">
> <tr>
> <td width="283"><div align="left"><strong>Number of days since last
> accident </strong></div></td>
> <td width="93"> <div align="center"><SPAN ID="S_DOLA">[no date
> yet]</SPAN> </div></td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td width="283"><strong>Number of days since last
> recordables:</strong> </td>
> <td><div align="center"><SPAN ID="S_DOLR">[no date yet]</SPAN>
> </div></td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> <p><br/>
>
> </FORM>
>
> <SCRIPT Language="JavaScript">
> function doCalc(fld)
> {
> var sp = document.getElementById("S_"+fld.name);
>
> var when = new Date( fld.value );
> if ( isNaN(when) )
> {
> sp.innerHTML = "<font color=red><b>INVALID DATE ENTERED</b></font>";
> fld.value = "";
> fld.focus( );
> return;
> }
> var now = new Date( );
> var today = new Date( now.getFullYear(), now.getMonth(), now.getDate()
> );
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