I wonder about the Indian BA course on Vedic Education
- are they allowed to take up Math and Science at
masters level. I know that you cannot study science in
India at college level unless you have studied it at
school level . 

Maybe California is also saying that those who haven't
taken science courses at school cannot study the same
at college. I would say that those who study religion
only - at school should atleast be allowed to take
humanities courses at college.

Umesh




 
--- Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now, California is joining the bandwagon with the
> bible belt? is it really a fight for justice or a
> fight to regain lost control? Read below.
>  
>
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>   University Is Accused of Bias Against Christian
> Schools 
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>   Published: November 20, 2005
>     Cody Young is an evangelical Christian who
> attends a religious high school in Southern
> California. With stellar grades, competitive test
> scores and an impressive list of extracurricular
> activities, Mr. Young has mapped a future that
> includes studying engineering at the University of
> California and a career in the aerospace industry,
> his lawyers have said.
>          . 
> 
>      Sandy Huffaker for The New York Times
>   David Barnes's Bible class at Calvary Chapel
> Christian School in Murrieta, Calif. 
>    
>   The University of California rejects some of the
> school's courses. 
> 
> 
> 
>   But Mr. Young, his teachers and his family fear
> his beliefs may hurt his chance to attend the
> university. They say the public university system,
> which has 10 campuses, discriminates against
> students from evangelical Christian schools,
> especially faith-based ones like Calvary Chapel
> Christian School in Murrieta, where Mr. Young is a
> senior.
>   Mr. Young, five other Calvary students, the school
> and the Association of Christian Schools
> International, which represents 4,000 religious
> schools, sued the University of California in the
> summer, accusing it of "viewpoint discrimination"
> and unfair admission standards that violate the free
> speech and religious rights of evangelical
> Christians. 
>   The suit, scheduled for a hearing on Dec. 12 in
> Federal District Court in Los Angeles, says many of
> Calvary's best students are at a disadvantage when
> they apply to the university because admissions
> officials have refused to certify several of the
> school's courses on literature, history, social
> studies and science that use curriculums and
> textbooks with a Christian viewpoint. 
>   The lawyer for the school, Robert Tyler, said
> reviewing and approving the course content was an
> intrusion into private education that amounted to
> government censorship. "They are trying to
> secularize private Christian schools," Mr. Tyler
> said. "They have taken God out of public schools.
> Now they want to do it at Christian schools."
>   A lawyer for the university, Christopher M. Patti,
> called the suit baseless. Acknowledging the
> university does not accept some courses, Mr. Patti
> said that more than 43 courses were recognized and
> that university campuses had offered admission to at
> least 18 Calvary students since 2002. "Calvary
> students are perfectly free to take whatever courses
> they like," Mr. Patti said. "All we are saying is
> that unapproved courses cannot be submitted to
> satisfy the requirements for entry."
>   The suit is being closely watched by free speech
> advocates, other public universities and Christian
> education leaders. All see it as a possible
> harbinger for admissions policies at state
> universities nationally. 
>   Charles C. Haynes, a senior scholar at the First
> Amendment Center at the Freedom Forum, which studies
> press and religious freedom, said the university was
> sending a chilling message to religious schools. "If
> you have to clean up your religious act to get
> courses accepted, that's a problem," said Mr.
> Haynes, who has reviewed the long complaint. 
>   Discussing the university, he said: "They
> certainly have a right to say the student needs to
> take foundational courses. That's fair. But when you
> get into the business of saying how a particular
> subject is taught or if it has too much of a
> religious overlay, then I think you are crossing a
> line."
>   The university maintains that under the state
> Constitution, the Board of Admissions and Relations
> With Schools, a faculty committee, has the authority
> to set academic standards for admissions. Ravi
> Poorsina, a spokeswoman for the university, said the
> goal was to ensure that entering students were
> well-prepared and competitive.
>   "This is not a viewpoint issue for us," Ms.
> Poorsina said. "Teach whatever you want. We don't
> want to be in the position of dictating what is
> taught. But we do have a right to set standards for
> admission, and ours are not unreasonable
> requirements."
>   A lawyer for the Association of Christian Schools
> International, Wendell Bird, said the Calvary
> concerns surfaced two years ago when the admissions
> board scrutinized more closely courses that
> emphasized Christianity. In the last year, the board
> has rejected courses like Christianity's Influence
> in American History, Special Provenance:
> Christianity and the American Republic, Christianity
> and Morality in American Literature and a biology
> course using textbooks from the Bob Jones University
> Press and A Beka Book, conservative Christian
> publishers.
>   The officials rejected the science courses because
> the curriculum differed from "empirical historical
> knowledge generally accepted in the collegiate
> community," the suit said. Calvary was told to
> submit a secular curriculum instead. Courses in
> other subjects were rejected because they were
> called too narrow or biased. 
>   "What really lights the fire here," Mr. Tyler
> said, "is when you look at courses the U.C. has
> approved from other schools. In the titles alone,
> you can see the discrimination against us."
>   The university has approved courses on Judaism,
> Islam, Buddhism and gender and counterculture's
> effects on literature, he noted. Ms. Poorsina said
> many courses on Christianity had been accepted, as
> have Bob Jones science books. 
>   For texts, Ms. Poorsina said, the university wants
> comprehensive and instructive overviews. A
> university fact sheet says publishers sometimes
> acknowledge their books are mainly to teach
> religion. The sheet has this excerpt from Bob
> Jones's "Biology for Christian Schools," used in
> unapproved courses, "The people who have prepared
> this book have tried consistently to put the Word of
> God first and science second."
> 
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