C'da,
 
>*** HOW does the army get involved in this you think? What process would >the Army use to identify and judge if the encroachers are illegal B'deshis, or >something else? The ol' lungi/lifting test?
 
The lungi-lift test may work:)
 
ID-ing illegals at such Xotras shouldn't be such a problem.  You have got yourself too immersed with this "Can I see some ID?" in the Ozarks:)
No such thing there. All the CRP/Army has to do is yell: "Bangladesi ho?"
Also, the xotriya-gurus ( make that mahantas) could help the army ID-ing the illegals :):)
 
 
. Only I am not quite >sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).
 
>B: By holding it up to prove how benevolent the army is, and how bad its >critics are, you too demonstrate a certain political bent
 
I thought I spoke of both the good and the bad side of the army, and also it is just a machine..
 
> Only I am not quite >sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).
 
Heheh!, C'da - I totally apolitical (even in this country's politics). I am, what one would call "baseless" and superficial. The way I operate is - I just take an issue, and then decide for myself which bandwagon I should hop into (usually I choose the one that others have jumped off from). Don't you think thats a lot of fun? But I am glad I am being at least considered:):)
 
--Ram


 
On 9/15/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram:

 
> If the government remains silent the Army should take action to evict the encroachers from >the Sattras of Asom in the greater interest of protecting and preserving the great ancient >heritage of the Vaishnavite religion--


*** HOW does the army get involved in this you think? What process would the Army use to identify and judge if the encroachers are illegal B'deshis, or something else? The ol' lungi/lifting test?

I realize that some of the encroachers at least, if not all, could be B'deshis. But WHAT would the process of identifying and evicting them be? What TOOLS would the Army gods use in a country flying the flags of a 'liberal democracy' to determine that, which is not available to civilian authorities? Of course I could be guilty of discounting the Army's omniscience in this matter--but you know how I am :-)?

 
Bottom line:

 
A: Publishing the clueless letter demonstrates the editorial acumen of the rag.

 
B: By holding it up to prove how benevolent the army is, and how bad its critics are, you too demonstrate a certain political bent. Only I am not quite sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).

 
c-da

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
At 5:17 PM -0500 9/15/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Well, well, C'da,
 
I was just pointing out the surprise that someone (like this letter writer to the AT) was being grateful to no less the army. That too in Assam - where the army dosen't seem to have a good image.
 
>Do you see this as some "good-stuff", gift of a benevolent army :-)?
 
You are reading between the lines?
 
Well, I just don't think this stuff as good or bad. The army does what its commanders/netas tell it to do - that is its function. It is doing what it is supposed to do. In this case, I think it is a welcome change. The army also does similar things like helping or saving people caught in floods - many a time in Assam.
I am also aware that that it can go berserk for no apparent reason - and innocent people get killed - we are all aware of that - time and again.
 
Do we have to be grateful - no, not at all
But it would be nice to at least acknowledge that sometimes the army does is beneficial, just like we feel it is right to condemn it when it does bad things - a sense of even-handedness, if you will.
 
>Where is the vaunted desi-demokrasy to protect the landholdings >of xotriya-gurus ( make that mahantas), obviously something they >got from the gods as divine gifts?
 
One would think, that is why the army was called in. Don't you think?
 
I know C'da - sometimes its hard to swallow a story like this and when that happens, we often look for some hidden agenda or look into the recesses for cracks in the country's democracy. :) :)
 
Some view the army as an evil force, while others know it is just a machinery in the hands of netas either in Delhi or the Kharkhowas in the GOA.
 
--Ram
 
 
On 9/15/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Ram:

 
Do you see this as some "good-stuff", gift of a benevolent army :-)?

 
What appals me is the desi-blather about that 'liberal democracy' in India, spouting from newspaper editorials, supposedly political scientists' ( make that voo-doo political scientist) columns, 'screwity' ( you heard it hear first :-)) analysts and the like, not to mention clueless luminaries of the kharkhowa establishment and at the same time imploring the 'army' to preserve heir properties from B'deshi immigrants.

 
Well, is there a rule of law in this Indian colony or not? Where is the vaunted desi-demokrasy to protect the landholdings of xotriya-gurus ( make that mahantas), obviously something they got from the gods as divine gifts?

 
That brings me to another question: Is the revenue-free landholdings off of which the Xotradhikars and their families lived, some quite well ( others barely), as a reward for, no doubt, looking after their 'xisyos'( disciples') spiritual redemption ( heh-heh:-)), regardless of the performance on their duties; still a divine right required to be upheld and safeguarded by the state, more than say an ordinary mortals' property rights? And if the mere-mortals do not have any such privilege, cannot invoke the army-gods' protection, how do the xottros do, in this dysfunctional desi-sorkar?

 
You got any ideas Ram :-)?

 
c-da

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
At 2:12 PM -0500 9/15/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
The army helping Sattras? This is one news I didn't expect, given the often bad stuff we keep hearing about it.
Maybe times are a changin.
 
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Army help to Sattras
 Sir,- The recent appeal of the Asom Sattra Mahasabha to the Army to remove the encroachers from the Sattras of Asom is quite timely and as such a rightful step. It is unfortunate that sites of the Sattras being the sacred centres of Vaishnavite religion and culture have now been occupied illegally by some people.

The Kobaikata Sattra in Nagaon and the Patekibori Sattra in Morigaon district are almost occupied and surrounded by doubtful foreigners but the government has been the passive on-looker without any step to evict the encroachers. If the government remains silent the Army should take action to evict the encroachers from the Sattras of Asom in the greater interest of protecting and preserving the great ancient heritage of the Vaishnavite religion propounded by Mahapurush Sri Sri Sankardeva and Madhabdeva. - Yours etc., MD. IDRISH ALI, Baligaon, Morigaon.
 


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