<In that sense those who have gone abroad /outside
Assam and got business experience can certainly use
their contacts and skills..>
That's why Oxomiyas do not go out and slave abroad.
Thanks to Broadband and Internet we get eveything sitting at home.
Now on we have to redefine what/when/why/who/for- what should go to college/Univ./IIM/IIT/AIIMS at all.
mm
From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Enterprise in Assam
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:31:44 +0100 (BST)
>Ram-da and C-da,
>
>I am indeed thinking of setting up a firm in US - I'm
>told even on student visa one can set up a US firm as
>long as you rope in someone else (US citizen ) to do
>the dirty work :-)
>
>I think a reading of the extremely pirated book : What
>they don't teach at Harvard Business School --would be
>useful to anyone interested in building confidence to
>start a business. I do have some business experience
>since my teen years -helping my father set-up a iron
>junk trading business. Slow and steady wins the race.
>He had no degree in business or commerce -just advice
>from established players in the field.
>
>I did an MBA from a small rural town in India - the
>kind which Cambridge city was (near Boston) when
>Harvard Univ was set up -and the city was named after
>Cambridge Univ from which many of its residents had
>graduated. In today's world of Opensource courseware
>(liek MIT's gift to the world) even univs in India or
>Assam in particular - can teach what is taught at
>Harvard.
>
>In that sense those who have gone abroad /outside
>Assam and got business experience can certainly use
>their contacts and skills.
>
>Regards.
>
>Umesh
>
>****A start though maybe to introduce a course in
> > entrepreneurship
> > > (specifically >designed for the local market
> > there).
> > >
> > >
> > > *** It is ALL about risks and benefits Ram. IF
> > someone can make a decent
> > > living
> > > WITHOUT taking the risks implicit in enterprise,
> > and one does not yearn
> > > for those EXTRA benefits or earnings that COULD
> > come from business, then you
> > > won't see entrepreneurship. Almost all of us
> > kharkhowa expats here have an
> > > education that ensures a decent living without the
> > risks involved. And most
> > > of us are quite happy with our lot, without the
> > desire to acquire MORE, that
> > > could come from a profitable business. So why take
> > on the hassles of
> > > business/enterprise?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From what I gather, Harvard is one of the few
> > institutions that offer a
> > > course >in entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their
> > Business School.
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or
> > would he :-)?
>
>
>
>
>--- Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > C'da,
> >
> > >*** No, that is not what I wrote. The comment was
> > about the expertise of
> > the >preachers. Surprised that you who have a keen
> > eye for words and phrases
> > and their >hidden meanings, not to mention the ones
> > staring at the reader
> >
> > You are right. Must have slipped thru somehow. Just
> > making these preachers
> > the same as the actual bidnessmen. So, what you are
> > saying is that there are
> > very few experts (at least the ones we come across)
> > who are cabable of
> > giving sound advice on business startup, and lest we
> > forget, on capital
> > acquisition.
> >
> > >*** Are you implying "maahor maar dekhi tile' bet
> > melile'" here >Ram :-)?
> >
> > Well, one never knows how far you could dig into
> > those dreaded archives, and
> > fish out something. Just not taking chances here :)
> > :)
> >
> > >>Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our
> > ulfa leaders too, did you?
> >
> > >*** No I did not. Mainly because I don't know any.
> > Do you know some? If you
> > do, >perhaps* you* can pose the question to them.
> >
> > Of course, I don't know any either. But I thought,
> > since you were the one
> > asking these tricky(pesky) questions, and since you
> > are so 'fair and
> > balanced' you perhaps would have made sure to ask
> > both parties :Sulfa and
> > ulfa. Both have managed to raise huge amounts of
> > capital (and without the
> > proverbial collateral).
> >
> > >*** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or
> > would he :-)?
> >
> > Poor Umesh! He just took the Education degree, not
> > the bidness, and who
> > knows whether he took the ethics course (from which,
> > of course, most Indians
> > are exempt) :) :)
> >
> > --Ram
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/26/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ram:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >You are not suggesting that a vast majority of
> > Kharkhowas are clueless
> > > about starting a business, are you?, ie no
> > entrepreneurial spirit - whether
> > > they are in Assam or here?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *** No, that is not what I wrote. The comment was
> > about the expertise of
> > > the preachers. Surprised that you who have a keen
> > eye for words and phrases
> > > and their hidden meanings, not to mention the ones
> > staring at the reader,
> > > did not get it :-).
> > >
> > >
> > > However we DID examine the reasons for so few of
> > us kharkhowa expats .
> > > being in business enterprises, even though here in
> > the USA for example, it
> > > is far,far of easier to get into, than it is in
> > India, or Assam. But it is
> > > NOT because of a defective gene as some like to
> > suggest :-). Our
> > > risk-averseness has many reasons, all are
> > sociologically and educationally
> > > conditioned responses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our
> > ulfa leaders too, did you?
> > >
> > >
> > > *** No I did not. Mainly because I don't know any.
> > Do you know some? If
> > > you do, perhaps* you* can pose the question to
> > them.
> > >
> > >
> > > However it is a fact, that ULFA leaders are/were
> > far more entrepreneurial
> > > and courageous risk-takers with leadership
> > abilities than the average
> > > population. That is why you also saw so many SULFA
> > cadres get into it too.
> > > They also had a huge advantage as SULFAs: Free
> > capital, bankrolled by the "
> > > government of the people", without any requirement
> > for paying back; a
> > > private system of justice by which they could
> > ensure market share,
> > > collection of payments and debts and ensure bid
> > winning. I know some nasty
> > > people decried that, but aren't those the right
> > requisites for business
> > > enterprises ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hehehe! that does it for me. I will try not to
> > suggest any ideas for
> > > >entrepreneurship (at this time at least)
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Are you implying "maahor maar dekhi tile' bet
> > melile'" here Ram :-)?
> > >
> > >
> > > >A start though maybe to introduce a course in
> > entrepreneurship
> > > (specifically >designed for the local market
> > there).
> > >
> > >
> > > *** It is ALL about risks and benefits Ram. IF
> > someone can make a decent
> > > living
> > > WITHOUT taking the risks implicit in enterprise,
> > and one does not yearn
> > > for those EXTRA benefits or earnings that COULD
> > come from business, then you
> > > won't see entrepreneurship. Almost all of us
> > kharkhowa expats here have an
> > > education that ensures a decent living without the
> > risks involved. And most
> > > of us are quite happy with our lot, without the
> > desire to acquire MORE, that
> > > could come from a profitable business. So why take
> > on the hassles of
> > > business/enterprise?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From what I gather, Harvard is one of the few
> > institutions that offer a
> > > course >in entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their
> > Business School.
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or
> > would he :-)?
> > >
> > >
> > > c-da
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 9:35 AM -0500 9/26/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> > >
> > > C'da,
> > >
> > > > Actually several years back I CHALLENGED another
> > bunch of >such advisers
> > > in Assam Net to describe HOW they would start.
> > >There was NOT a single
> > > reply .
> > >
> > > You are not suggesting that a vast majority of
> > Kharkhowas are clueless
> > > about starting a business, are you?, ie no
> > entrepreneurial spirit - whether
> > > they are in Assam or here?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Then I challenged a prakton-Ulfa, or SULFA,
> > leader
> > > > then doing doing business in Assam and who too
> > were advising >others in
> > > Assam Net to take up business ( obviously as an
> > >antidote to insurgency), to
> > > tell us how one might begin, how to get >capital
> > if one did not have
> > > collateral
> > >
> > > Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our
> > ulfa leaders too, did you?
> > > They might be willing to divulge how to get
> > capital without a collateral. I
> > > hear they are pretty adept at it. :)
> > >
> > > > I have those exchanges in my archives. If
> > someone would like to >read
> > > them, let me know.
> > >
> > > Hehehe! that does it for me. I will try not to
> > suggest any ideas for
> > > entrepreneurship (at this time at least).
> > >
> > > A start though maybe to introduce a course in
> > entrepreneurship
> > > (specifically designed for the local market
> > there). From what I gather,
> > > Harvard is one of the few institutions that offer
> > a course in
> > > entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their Business
> > School.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --Ram
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/26/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > I have gotten used to the well-meaning advice
> > and exhortations of our
> > > > fellow kharkhowas about how to pull Assam out of
> > its miseries by
> > > > starting industries,by being entrepreneurs and
> > so forth. I smile to
> > > > myself, wondering why these advisers work for
> > wages, mostly clerical
> > > > work, far from home , in environments where it
> > is far easier to
> > > > become entrepreneurs .
> > > >
> > > > Something is patently contradictory here isn't
> > it?
> > > >
> > > > I have pondered over it often. My guess, so far,
> > is that, well
> > > > meaning as they are, they have NO clue :-).
> > > >
> > > > Actually several years back I CHALLENGED another
> > bunch of such
> > > > advisers in Assam Net to describe HOW they would
> > start. There was NOT
> > > > a single reply. Then I challenged a
> > prakton-Ulfa, or SULFA, leader
> > > > then doing doing business in Assam and who too
> > were advising others
> > > > in Assam Net to take up business ( obviously as
> > an antidote to
> > > > insurgency), to tell us how one might begin, how
> > to get capital if
> > > > one did not have collateral, how to build a
> > market, how to
> > > > distribute, how to get an operating line of
> > credit, so on and so
> > > > forth. And last but not the least, how to make
> > sure of getting paid
> > > > for delivering goods or services, and if there
> > is a contract default,
> > > > how to go about resolving such a dispute, who to
> > rely on?
> > > >
> > > > The silence was deafening.
> > > >
> > > > I have those exchanges in my archives. If
> > someone would like to read
> > > > them, let me know.
> > > >
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