From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nayanjyoti Medhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Rajen & Ajanta
Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected],"Chan Mahanta"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:05:16 -0600
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It is already included Nayan. And what is missing you can always
fill in. You don't have to seek anyone's permission for that. Just
pitch in where feel it is needed. After all, you too, as an informed
citizen, will be participating in an independent Assam's governance.
c-da
At 10:01 PM +0530 2/24/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi wrote:
rajen da,
can my suggestions be incorporated? do tell me because
that would help in preparation of the future deliberations as
regards that topic.
regards
nayan
On 2/24/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chandan: Theser are not meant for individual reply and spend time in
side arguments but to help ypu prepare the final Manin Course and
address.
Thanks
Rajen
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Chan Mahanta
To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Barua, Rajen ;
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
R:
>I don't see any serious debate for or against independence from
any side so far. ZERO, ZIPPO.
*** That is because of your and Dilip's admonition to all those
chomping at the bit to come out swinging , to hold their horses,
till I am done saying my piece.
>I would also hope that you not side tract the issue and would not
present more appetizers but will go to >the full course.
*** I will certainly consider that :-).
>that all the Assamese share your views equally.
*** WOW! Come on Rajen. I know I have a big head, but NOT that big
:-). Actually I made that clear at the outset that these are MY
views. And, trust me, I don't speak for anybody else: Not the
Oxomiya Jaati, not the whole or even part of Assam, Not ULFA, not
NRAs.
But that is not to suggest there may not be anybody who could be
expected to find common cause with MY views.
>In my opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the
following contents.
1) Introduction
2) What is the problem?
3) What reforms we need?.
4) Why Independence needed for these reforms?
5) How this Independence can be achieved.?
6) What is needed for success.?
>7) What is the plan?
*** Those are good points.
But I would like to point out a couple of things:
Those who grew up in rural Assam and had some morbid curiosities,
perhaps noticed that when the common vultures descend on
carrion, they don't dig into the feast the moment they land. There
is a hierarchical order in the animal kingdom -- the grunt
vultures must
wait for the Roja Xogun/s ( literally the royal vultures -- with their
distinctive red appendages around the eyes and the throat--
also called turkey vulture/s) to alight and take the first bites,
usually at the eyes of the carcass.
Or a more contemporary and genteel example would be the
feudal fiefdom
of the HC Judges in India, where an aggrieved grunt-justice must
obtain His Lordship's say-so, before he or she can lodge a
public complaint of wrong-doing.
In assamnet we don't have such hierarchies. Netters are free to state
their own positions, as they see fit, in any order they wish, at any
time. They don't need to wait for anybody's blessing.
So, DO :-).
>Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one paragraph,
*** I would leave that to the discretion of the writer. It is her
time and his dime :-).
>For any statement, there should be a back up support in your
pocket so that you may counter any >questions from the doubters.
*** That of course would be elementary. I for one, never assert
something that I cannot provide a halfway believable explanation
for.
>Like when you say, (After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power,
it did not realize that unless it radically >reformed the system
they would fall victim to its built-in recipe for failure, of
falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei >raabon hoy' trap.) here
people like me would question the phrase in bold, because you are
making >statement on Oxom Andwlon which you did not participate and
may not have any clue other than your >impression from remote.
*** I or you and many in our shoes have long been gone for Assam. If
MY observation is incorrect, or clueless, how would yours be any
different, using the same logic as you use here?
The fact is that, we can observe things critically and draw
intelligent conclusions. My absence from Assam, or yours, does not,
in any way, shape or form, preclude us from observing, analyzing and
drawing conclusions.
That simple.
c
At 12:18 PM -0500 2/23/07, Barua, Rajen wrote:
>All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and
debated by proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on
historical, cultural, ethnic and >natural right components.
I don't see any serious debate for or against independence from any
side so far. ZERO, ZIPPO.
But I would hold any response and rather will wait for your full
course. I would also hope that you not side tract the issue and
would not present more appetizers but will go to the full course.
BTW your full course seems to have missed a big 'introduction' which
should come before 'why independence', an introduction' which
probably you are taking it for granted that all the Assamese share
your views equally. But that question can wait to see your full
course.
In my opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the
following contents.
1) Introduction
2) What is the problem?
3) What reforms we need?.
4) Why Independence needed for these reforms?
5) How this Independence can be achieved.?
6) What is needed for success.?
7) What is the plan?
Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one
paragraph, but each should be addressed. For any statement, there
should be a back up support in your pocket so that you may counter
any questions from the doubters. Like when you say, ( After the
'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it did not realize that unless it
radically reformed the system they would fall victim to its built-in
recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei
raabon hoy' trap.) here people like me would question the phrase in
bold, because you are making statement on Oxom Andwlon which you did
not participate and may not have any clue other than your impression
from remote.
Without a full sized report addressing all the issues, the netters
may again get excited to be busy in arguments.
This is just to help you so that you donot throw any more appetizers
with ifs and but and we donot get into unnecessary arguments but may
go to the meat.
Thanks
Rajen
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On Behalf Of Chan Mahanta
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:37 AM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
My apologies for not getting to the part most of my friends opposed
to my views must be waiting for - Assam's Own Governmental System".
However it is important to set the stage for the main course. So,
here I deal with a very important question about this whole concept
of i**********e or s********y :-): What is it? Bangalis might ask,
Eta ki? Khai-na kaane' pore' ( what is it? Do you eat it or wear on
your ear?).
Is i**********e a trophy or is it a tool?
The answer is that it is both.
And readers might ask--SO?
The reason I decided to raise this question first and answer it is
because of the fact that, thus far, the discourse about Assam's
i**********e has been focused only on the TROPHY part. Neither the
proponents of independence -- the ULFA, its supporters and
sympathizers, nor its detractors, have dealt with the really
important component; that it is an essential TOOL, indispensable
means to certain ends.
All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and
debated by proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on
historical, cultural, ethnic and natural right components. Not that
they are not relevant or important. They ARE. For most struggles for
independence in recent human history have been fought exactly on
these issues.
The TROPHY justifications, of necessity, are intangible and could be
subjective at times and thus become targets of detractors from the
trite to the toxic.
But in case of Assam, I would submit, the TOOL component, the
indispensable means to certain ends is even more important. It is
essential to reform Assam's governance to suit Assam's needs and
which is impossible under India's colonial and medieval system. The
fact of the dysfunction of the Indian system needs no proving. It is
there for all to see and experience.
After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it did not realize that
unless it radically reformed the system they would fall victim to
its built-in recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi
jai, xeyei raabon hoy' trap.
The key here then is to demonstrate HOW to go about doing it.
Next "My Take on Why I********* - IV, Assam's Own Governmental System"
cm
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