C-da
I do not denounce her for accusing NE people of dog-eating but of ""SKINNING
them Alive!!! before eating. Thats the only way she can raise a ruckus. Who
cares what you eat as long they are your loved ones or other humans?
Umesh
PS: I did not get the part about Hinduttva forces. Does Hindusim say anything
against eating meat -- even ex PM Vajpayee of BJP eats meat.
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Umesh:
Hope things are going well for you.
Why do you think Menaka Gandhi should be taken to task, and by who? What are
her crimes? And if it cannot be done, then what?
I appreciated Himendra Kwaiti saying with the courage of his convictions what
he knows to be the truth about Nagas purportedly indulging in what was
insinuated by Dr. Sashank. It was a slander, no doubt created and perpetuated
by the caste-Oxomiyas. I don't mean here the tradition of eating dog-meat.
Many people around the world do that. Remember many even eat COWS? Imagine
someone eating their 'mothers'?
But I fail to see why Menaka Gandhi needs to be taken to task. Ignorance can
be easily eradicated by educating . If our very own Sashank Daktor would have
cared to do a little home-work, before he spread the rumor, with emphasis ( IT
IS A TRUE STORY, not a false one mind you), and informed MG's group that it is
an 'otironjon', exaggerated myth, or if he had found evidence to support the
slanderous
rumor, affirming it and informing them how prevalent it is or was; that would
have helped kill the ignorant rumor as it seems to be or put things in
perspective.
If Menaka Gandhi is running a an effort to eradicating cruelty to animals,
that should be supported.
I know being a Nehru dynasty 'bohu' she is a public enemy to Hinduttwa
forces. But that would be a mindless reaction, wouldn't it?
As a Life-Member and Patron of "Assam Association of Delhi", I propose
action in the following sequence: (1) Assam Association of Delhi should take
leadership in confronting the irresponsible, anti-national and divisive lies of
Sushri Maneka Gandhi (2) Before taking any action, Sushri Maneka Gandhi
should be notified to explain, within 15 days, about the truth of the report.
(3) On expiry of 15 days, a PIL case should be filed on charges of anti-India
activities against Sushri Maneka Gandhi and India TV under the provisions of
the Constitution of India. (4) One thousand effigies of Maneka Gandhi should
be burned all over Assam within a month. (5) Demands should be made to the
Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh to condemn Maneka Gandhi. (6) Demand
should be made to BJP to expel Maneka Gandhi from BJP, failing which, rallies
should the held all over Assam and Delhi against BJP leadership.
*** I find the above prescriptions hilarious, Manoj's assurances , replete
with gratitude for the advices not-withstanding. Can't wait to see Manoj Das
sending out tenders for Menaka Gandhi effigies and taking out permits from
Delhi Fire Protection District to burn them, with Himendra Kwaiti leading the
parade on a Roth wielding a 'jwr' ( torch) lit with ghee, being pulled by a
bunch of gorus ( bulls) . Would hate to see you in the line of the roth-pullers
Umesh, or any kharkhowa with a working brain.
>It is a high time Assam should once again take a strong stand.
*** That I can ditto on. But NOT on this cause and not in this way. This is
a great way to look utterly RIDICULOUS and clueless to the core.
c-da
At 5:59 PM +0100 5/23/07, umesh sharma wrote:
Good suggestion by Himenda. Menaka Gandhi must be taken to task . Umesh
Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Himendrada, we'll do our bit. BTW Sashanka is VET working in NGO
sector at Delhi. -manoj
On 5/21/07, Himendra Thakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Manoj, During my 4 year stay in Nagaland, I became close to my Naga
friends, and I came to know that "kukur-pitha" was a lie --- it continues to be
a lie today. It is a lie similar to what you see in the movie "INDIANA
JONES" by George Lucas where Indians were shown as people who eat live snakes.
From time immemorial, people hurl ethnic slurs to demean others and glorify
the self. India is full of this kind of ethnic slurs. These are the root of
India's disunity and weakness. Very often, movies were used to spread ethnic
insults. I remember a movie (by a Marathi producer) CHACHA CHOUDHARY that was
directed against Gujarati and South Indians. An exception was Uday Shankar's
KALPANA where he protested against stereotyping people. Mahatma Gandhi was
always against any ethnic slur. His article "Lovely Assam" will shine like a
gem forever. Our goal is to build a strong India for which we need complete
extirpation of ethnic smearing. If the report is
true, the interview at India TV by Sushri Maneka Gandhi adds up to betrayal of
India. Her irresponsibility is paramount because she is a Member of Parliament,
a member of BJP and a prominent national leader. This is a very serious
matter. Because of their hereditary features, people from Assam are already
facing many problems in Delhi where they are identified with derogatory remarks
such as "chepta", etc. For the sake of future generations of the Assamese, the
slur hurled by Sushri Maneka Gandhi must be nipped at the bud. This is as
serious as the "Grouping" that was stopped by Gopinath Bordoloi in 1946,
earning an international reputation of stubbornness. As a Life-Member and
Patron of "Assam Association of Delhi", I propose action in the following
sequence: (1) Assam Association of Delhi should take leadership in
confronting the irresponsible, anti-national and divisive lies of Sushri Maneka
Gandhi (2) Before taking any action, Sushri Maneka Gandhi should
be notified to explain, within 15 days, about the truth of the report. (3)
On expiry of 15 days, a PIL case should be filed on charges of anti-India
activities against Sushri Maneka Gandhi and India TV under the provisions of
the Constitution of India. (4) One thousand effigies of Maneka Gandhi should
be burned all over Assam within a month. (5) Demands should be made to the
Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh to condemn Maneka Gandhi. (6) Demand
should be made to BJP to expel Maneka Gandhi from BJP, failing which, rallies
should the held all over Assam and Delhi against BJP leadership. It is a
high time Assam should once again take a strong stand. Please let me know your
opinion. I have facts about the lack of credibility of Sushri Maneka
Gandhi, which I'll send to you after the 15 day notice mentioned above.
With the best wishes, Himendra PS: For some reason not known to me, my
membership at assamnet has been cancelled. Please post my letter
whichever way you think the best.
----- Original Message ----- From: Manoj Das To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dr.
Sashanka ; Ram Sarangapani ; NorthEastIndia ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
[email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam]
IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR SKIN AND MEAT
It's 'kukur pitha'. But only eaten in Nagaland. Himendrada, with long years
of service in Nagaland will be able to through some light and put the record
straight.
On 5/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram,
Let us not be coy about this ancient cultural trait of our people and let the
good doctor know about his query, without doubt a truly altruistic and generous
gesture to bring a little respite to the sufferings of our canine comrades.
Dr. Sashanka, as you know, we are ashamed of our ancient pursuit of this
delectable culinary gem. That is why my esteemed colleague Ram is beating
around the bush, not telling you like it is. The truth, doctor, is that it is
as Assamese a custom as Bihu dancing, til-pitha khwa ( eating sesame and
juggery stuffed rice flour cakes), sunga-saul khowa ( rice cooked in green
bamboo tubes over an open fire), eating 'bwnda-kesu-bhaji' ( deep-fried giant
earthworms, each 9" to a foot long" -- an ancient source of high quality
protein, about 95% of its body mass--compare that to about 15% beef being
protein), juit-pwra xaamuk ( barbequed snails--another high quality protein
source), fermented fish curry ( small fish buried in wet ground, wrapped in
banana leaves and generously spiced up with'bih-jolokiya'--literally poison
pepper, the world's hottest pepper and blackish clay dug up from water buffalo
wallows in flooded rice paddies, usually shaded by bamboo groves). Those are
only
some of our unique culinary heritage.
Anyway, to make a long story short, this delectable doggie treat is eaten all
over Assam, in poor houses and rich, modern Assamese families as well as forest
dwelling savages, who only wear slivers of dried banana leaves to cover their
shame, and that too only under the most piercing gaze of outsiders.
You will do a great service to civilizing our people left behind by the times,
if you visit Assam, and write an expose'. I hope you will let Menoka Aideu (
Lady Menaka) and her animal rights group know all about this sordid practice,
with a request to bring it to the notice of the civilzed world. And most of
all , your service will be remembered by dog-loving Indians whose legacy goes
back to Yudhisthir whose companion never parted company even when crossing the
river Boitorini, deep down in the nether-world.
With the best of wishes, I remain a despondent Assamese:
Chandan Mahanta USA
---- Ram Sarangapani < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hehehe!
>
> At one time, atleast , this "dish was was (popularly) called 'kukur pitha'
> and we were told it does happen in certain places. While it is possible for
> Menaka Gandhi to say something like this, I think, this kind of story still
> has legs is because of its strangeness.
>
> Another thing to think about is also about the Assam in those days was a
> larger, bigger Assam.
> To answer your question, 'yes', I would say most older netters at least
> thought it happened is a certain place. PC (and lack of any
> proof) prevents us from assigning this practice to a particular place.
>
> --Ram
>
>
> On 5/20/07, Dr. Sashanka < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea where exactly the following cruelty happens in
> > ASSAM???
> >
> > *"IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR SKIN AND MEAT.(A TRUE
> > STATEMENT).THEY ARE KEPT HUNGRY FOR 5 DAYS THEN ON THE SIXTH DAY FEED ALOT
> > OF RICE AND DAL AND AS SOON AS THE INNOCENT ANIMAL FINISHES THE MEAL
> > ,BECAUSE HE'S HUNGRY FOR 5 DAYS,IN A ROW,**
> > THE BUTCHER TEARS OPEN THE STOMACH OF THE DOG,WHILE THE DOG BEING FULLY
> > ALIVE,THEN ITS KILLED AND EATEN AND ITS SKIN GIVEN FOR LEATHER
> > GOODS.IT<http://goods.it/>HAPPENS DAILY OVER THERE,(AS SAID BY
> > MS.MANEKA GANDHI,A WELL KNOWN ANIMAL RIGHTS ATIVIST,ON AN INTERVIEW,WITH
> > INDIA T.V.)"*
> > * *
> > The link where I found this
> >
> > http://www.petadishoom.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1706ឹ
> >
> > Its horrible if really happens in ASSAM and if not then is this a right
> > message to the world??????????
> >
> > Sashanka
> >
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