Ram-da, Bottomline is your view does not count
So what, if US hob-nobs with Military Ruled Pakistan, So what, if US promoted Talibans to counter Soviet (and now fighting the same Talibans !), so what if US turned a blind eye to Tienman Square ..... all while waving a flag of DEMOKRASY ...... >>Heh-heh! >>**** That was one heck of a JUMPING to CONCLUSIONS you undertook Ram. >>Did *I* suggest or even IMPLY that India ought to have cut-off diplomatic relations? >>What I was pointing to was a far more HYPOCRITICAL stance: >Government of India has decided to provide all assistance to Myanmar >Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help India. >Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had last month paid a >quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for weapons. He briefed >the meeting about the outcome of his visit. **** But I understand why my post struck that raw nerve again :-). >Yes, India is a democracy, **** Yes indeed, desi-demokratic that is, where ordinary meanings of these terms like democracy, secularism and the like do not apply. > and it has known of Burma's dictatorship for decades. It has also >known of the Ayotollas in Tehran, the >commies in China, and of >Fidel in Cuba. What about Pakistan, where, one would think, most >would >love India wiped out. And what about Bangladesh, which is not >very India friendly? **** The difference you avoided acknowledging and addressing, again, lies with: >Government of India has decided to provide all assistance to Myanmar >Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help India. >Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had last month paid a >quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for weapons. He briefed >the meeting about the outcome of his visit. > "if you are not with us, then you must be against us" *** Nice try! c-da At 7:48 AM -0600 10/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > >****What leaves me curious about is if GoI was aware of Burma's >military >dictatorship's activities spanning decades, as relates to >its people's democratic >aspirations, and how it fit with India's >own dedication to democracy? > >C'da, just couldn't resist. Yes, India is a democracy, and it has >known of Burma's dictatorship for decades. It has also known of >the Ayotollas in Tehran, the commies in China, and of Fidel in Cuba. >What about Pakistan, where, one would think, most would love India >wiped out. And what about Bangladesh, which is not very India >friendly? > >Do you suggest that India severe all ties with such countries? After >all, there are people in all these countries seeking democratic >aspirations. > >The US and every other democratic country have always had >relationships (at least tolerated) with countries that really do not >hold the same values. What about the US and Venezuela? Should the US >severe that relationship, because there too millions seek democratic >aspirations.? > >Like, every other democratic country, India is no different. It can, >and should, maintain relationships with other countries (even the >not friendly ones or those run by dictators) at different levels. >I am surprised, you seem to be saying "if you are not with us, then >you must be against us" :) > >--Ram > > > > > > > > > >On 10/4/07, Chan Mahanta ><<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net> wrote: > >Greetings Goswami. It is heartwarming to see Kharkhowa xangbadik >xokolor utkontha ( Assamese journalist's concerns) about the >Burmese people's struggles for democratic rights. > > > > >And my Kharkhowa heart glows with pride with the powerful stance >you all took in support of democratic values by urging ---- > > >">---- the Government of India to create diplomatic pressure on the >Burmese junta to refrain from >repressive measures against those >carrying on the democracy movement in the country." > > >That ought to leave no doubt on how committed you all are to >democratic values. > > > > >More so in view of the following that appeared in your paper, the >AT, obviously with a sense of relish >( note the highlighted parts) some months back: > > > > > ><<http://www.assamtribune.com/>http://www.assamtribune.com/><http://www.assamtribune.com/> >http://www.assamtribune.com/ 6 October 2006 >From Our Spl Correspondent > NEW DELHI, Oct 5 - Notwithstanding the setback in the ULFA peace >process, the Centre is unwilling to write off the peace process and >has held out fresh hope by indicating that it was still willing to >stop Army operations, if the outfit responded positively. The >Centre' latest gambit came from National Security Adviser, MK >Narayanan, who told newsmen here today that he was willing to call >off the Army operations, if ULFA comes for talks. > >The NSA was responding to news reports, which quoted ULFA's >mouthpiece Freedom as having said that the outfit was still open to >finding a 'political solution' to the insurgency in Asom. > >Replying to a query, he said that he was unaware about ULFA's >statement. "But, if it is true then it is most welcome. I will stop >operation if they come," he added. > >The NSA had come to the Ministry of Home Affairs to take a meeting >on the internal security. > >In the latest issue of its mouthpiece, the ULFA said it was, "still >hopeful of a political solution and it would respond to any such >efforts initiated by the Centre through the PCG". The mouthpiece >said it was confident that the PCG would work for bringing about a >"political solution". > >ULFA's latest threat to target Congressmen in the State, as well as >the sudden end to the peace process has the Centre thinking. The UPA >Government at the Centre, which was hoping for a breakthrough, is >upset at the breakdown of the peace process. Politically, the UPA >may not find much support among its allies, with the CPI-M already >stating it wanted the peace process to continue. > >The reluctance on part of ULFA to commit in writing, unabated >extortions and growing belligerence of the outfit coupled with stern >warning from Army and intelligence agencies forced the Centre to >call off the suspension of operation on September 24. Subsequently, >the PCG also pulled out of the peace process. > >The development may be significant, because it comes at a time when >the Centre is bracing up to intensify operations against ULFA and by >all indications, a coordinated operation with Myanmar Army may be in >the offing. > >Last evening, as reported today, a high level meeting chaired by >Cabinet Secretary, BK Chaturvedi and attended by top brass of the >three services, intelligence officials, was held at South Block to >take stock of the internal security situation including Army >operations in Asom. > >Government of India has decided to provide all assistance to Myanmar >Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help India. >Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had last month paid a >quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for weapons. He briefed >the meeting about the outcome of his visit. > > > > > > >****What leaves me curious about is if GoI was aware of Burma's >military dictatorship's activities spanning decades, as relates to >its people's democratic aspirations, and how it fit with India's own >dedication to democracy? And the ATs too? > > >Any ideas? > > >Best. > > >cm > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 1:29 PM +0100 10/4/07, ranenkumar goswami wrote: > >>Newsmen's support to Burmese cause >> >Guwahati, October 4: The Journalists' Forum, Assam on > >Thursday urged the Government of India to create >diplomatic pressure on the Burmese junta to refrain >from repressive measures against those carrying on the > >democracy movement in the country. > In a meeting at the Guwahati Press Club with JFA >president Rupam Baruah in chair, the newsmen's body >asked the Union Government not to remain silent on the >happenings in the neighbouring country and do the >needful within its powers to facilitate a peaceful >transition to democracy. > Extending its whole-hearted support to the >movement, the Forum demanded that Aung San Suu Kyi, >the globally recognized pro-democracy leader, be >immediately released from the prolonged detention she >is being made to undergo. It deplored the brutal >killing of protesting citizens including one foreign >journalist. > The meeting expressed its solidarity with the >proposed Global Action Day for Free Burma to be >observed on October 6. > The meeting was addressed among others by Dr >Amalendu Guha, Hemanta Barman, Dr Abdul Mannan, >Nilamoni Sen Deka, Hiten Mahanta, Nava Thakuria, >Jayanta Gogoi, Jawaharlal Saha and Satish Tahbildar. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
