Right! Like, child labor is not conducive to anything.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:33 +0000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in
theworldThere is always another view of everything. Like terrorists killing
hapless people may have a view to justify it. The view has to be tested whether
it is conducive to humanity or not. Only that view that is favourable to the
community as a whole has to be adopted for happiness in real terms.Rajen &
Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MKD wrote
>Now in a country like India, if they (child) are not put to work, they>will
>either turn into urchins, vagabonds, beggars or drug addicts,
One may ask back the question, what is meant by 'a country like India', a
country with the richest man in the world?
Whichever way we see it, if a country even cannot afford without child labour,
and try to justify 'child labour' then there something wrong with that country,
in spite of (or may be because of) having the richest man in the world.
Our duty is to analyse, what is wrong with us. Ram has rightly said and which
I support,
"A nation that refuses to acknowledge and redress its moral and legal
obligations toward it OWN children has to be both morally and legally bankrupt."
Rajen Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: Ram Sarangapani
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in theworld
>Whether child labour is good or bad is an ethical issue. The position a person
>takes in this respect >would depend upon his values. That is a very individual
>decision. But the question is: what is the >generally accepted view ? It may
>be correct or it may be wrong. Only efflux of time would settle these >types
>of isues.
Uttam/Manoj
IMHO, the issue of child labor has to be both a National issue as well as a
moral issue. Moreover, the strength of a democracy lies in a country's ability
to protect the weakest members (read citizens) of its society. And children are
really the most vulnerable. I have often heard arguments (that Manoj has put
forth) regarding child labor --- ie. that it has to be looked at another way.
>There was some report that the rescued children had no regret for>working in
>such factories. In an over populated country like India,>where every household
>has many mouths to feed from one income,
The sad reality is that child labor, which ever way one looks at it, it is
still bad. The poor people who have only one income obviously have to find a
different avenue (other than on their childrens' backs) to survive. Yes, the
these are hard choices (and I do understand Manoj :)), but in the end the
country as whole has to decide how exactly it wants to get out of this viscious
circle.
A nation that refuses to acknowledge and redress its moral and legal
obligations toward it OWN children has to be both morally and legally bankrupt.
The least that India can do is to make sure to strictly enforce its child labor
laws, educate its adult population that child labor is simply put, bad and
unjust, and has to be eradicated.
-- Ram da
BTW: The day before yesterday, CNN had a special report on how some top clothes
designers (US) were using poor children in India to work long hours etc.
children has to work. For example in Kashmir children are actuallyapprentices
who become master crafts person once they become oldhands. Now in a country
like India, if they are not put to work, theywill either turn into urchins,
vagabonds, beggars or drug addicts,
On 10/30/07, uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There cannot be any issues in Mukesh Ambani becoming the richest man in the
whole world. Someone has to be. The same order that catapults someone to
unbelievable wealth, pushes others to child labour. I have been told that some
changes are coming in the world banking system by January and the surge in the
Indian Markets is a consequence of that. I do not haver any insider information
and so I do not know whether it is correct. Mukesh Ambani happens to be in the
right place at the right time.
Whether child labour is good or bad is an ethical issue. The position a person
takes in this respect would depend upon his values. That is a very individual
decision. But the question is: what is the generally accepted view ? It may be
correct or it may be wrong. Only efflux of time would settle these types of
isues. Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is another side to the child labour issue.There was some report that the
rescued children had no regret for working in such factories. In an over
populated country like India,where every household has many mouths to feed from
one income,children has to work. For example in Kashmir children are
actuallyapprentices who become master crafts person once they become old hands.
Now in a country like India, if they are not put to work, theywill either turn
into urchins, vagabonds, beggars or drug addicts,If govt. wants to seriously
abolish child labor, education, socialinfrastructure has to come first so that
these children are keptoccupied gainfully. Otherwise mere rescuing them from
factories willnot serve any purpose. They are bound to take wrong paths, after
a fewdays of media glare is over. -mkd
On Oct 30, 2007 9:07 PM, uttam borthakur wrote:> We do as all prisoner do, we
cultivate hope.>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> I second the hopes.>> cm>>>>> ----
uttam borthakur wrote:> > Mukesh Ambani is the richest person.> > Mr. Pachauri
got the peace nobel. > > We got to be proud.> >> > But in our town, we have to
queue up from the morning till night to get a> cylinder of cooking gas and that
too at prices unaffordable for the middle> class.(What was Rs.300/- has become
Rs.500/-, comaparatively speaking) The> cost of piped water per unit has been
hiked by more than two times (What was> Rs.8/- per unit has become Rs.18/-,
comparatively speaking).> > > > We hope, the achievements of the above two
would lead us to redemption in> so far gas and water are concerned.> >> > Ankur
Bora wrote:> > Along with Ambani's Richness , Ironically the following new is
also > headlined prominently today.> >> > Indian 'slave' children found making
low-cost clothes destined for Gap> >> > Child workers, some as young as 10,
have been found working in a textile > factory in conditions close to slavery
to produce clothes that appear> destined for Gap Kids, one of the most
successful arms of the high street> giant.> > Speaking to The Observer, the
children described long hours of unwaged > work, as well as threats and
beatings.> > The discovery of the children working in filthy conditions in the
Shahpur> Jat area of Delhi has renewed concerns about the outsourcing by large
retail> chains of their garment production to India, recognised by the United>
Nations as the world's capital for child labour.> >> > Partha Gogoi wrote:> >>
> a report on the Indian stock market...... > >> >
http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/oct/29mukesh1.htm> > > >> > QUOTE> >
"Billionaire Mukesh Ambani on Monday became the richest person in the> world,
surpassing American software czar Bill Gates, Mexican business tycoon> Carlos
Slim Helu and famous investment guru Warren Buffett, courtesy the > bull run in
the stock market.> > Following a strong share price rally today in his three
group companies -> India's most valued firm Reliance Industries [Get Quote],
Reliance Petroleum> [Get Quote] and Reliance Industrial Infrastructure Ltd [Get
Quote] - the net > worth of Mukesh Ambani rose to $63.2 billion (Rs 2,49,108
crore). "> > UNQUOTE> >> >> >
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