>>destination. But good enough for a night's rest >>after a long drive. >>Clean sheets. Hot shower. Flushing Toilet.
If you read the review you will see that many do not even have these basic stuff >>*** Why is it an EXCUSE? What is unbelievable or >>unreasonable about >>my explanation? Are ALL HOJOS bad, hell holes, >>like your Orlando >>experience? Many are , as evident from numerous feedback in net. And similarly your one experience in Dumdum does not make it that ALL hotels in India are horrible. >>of stale curry >>in the corridors are a turnoff, but hey, you get >>what you pay for. Exactly! And that's what you get when you book a hotel for Rs1200 in Dumdum ... that too without any reservation. >>**** For a very simple reason: Those that are >>halfway decent are >>horribly expensive, like $ 300.00 per night or >>more. For that kind of >>money one could stay at the Ritz Carltons in the US. But are not those for the Rich and the Famous .. like you :-) >>Those who complain won't >>if they could just get a clean bed with a flushing >>toilet and hot >>water in the shower in the winter and the panes not >>missing from >>windows and the like. Are not there similar complaints against many of the US hotels ..... I mean that's what I see all over the net ... unless those complaints are all cooked up by some Desis. >>To arrive at 3:00 AM and paying $ >>300.00 to stay till 8:00 AM just does NOT make any >>sense. Then you will have to go by your own words ...."You get what you pay for" >>*** Why don't you tell us of a few at DumDum, the >>subject of the arguments. You do not pay me to do your research . I do not need any hotel in Dumdum (because I stopover at Mumbai) and so never tried to find. But a tip for All travelers ... there is an excellent book -- Bhraman Sangi ..originally in Bengali but I guess they have now translated in English. I found their recomendation more reliable then AAA. >>**** Well!!! That therefore sets the standard of >>the Indian hotel >>industry. Must be another example of >>cutting edge statistical savvy, driving desis to >>making sweeping >>judgements from the exceptions to the norm. Definitely not sir, definitely not ! The standard is what is preached by people like you who have visited just may be one or two places in India, stayed in India for a total of may be les then 100 days in 20 years and still are experts. People like me who have widely travelled accross different locations of India are just ignorant fools :-) >>> >>ANOTHER could be that these HOJO s are facilities in >certain >>>locations, exceptions to the norm. I am not >familiar with New York > >Excuse and more excuse. >BTW, any explanation why such HOJOs are rated by AAA >with its diamond rating which "lives upto its reputation". *** Why is it an EXCUSE? What is unbelievable or unreasonable about my explanation? Are ALL HOJOS bad, hell holes, like your Orlando experience? >Or the Days Inn and Or Travelodge **** Both are widely known to be cheap chains . Not that they are always filthy. Some are quite nice. Many are run by desis. I have stayed in a few over the years. But their quality is not uniform and they do serve those whose budgets can't reach the more expensive and of uniform quality. Sometimes there are no other alternatives in the locale, because it is not a popular travel destination. But good enough for a night's rest after a long drive. Clean sheets. Hot shower. Flushing Toilet. The smell of stale curry in the corridors are a turnoff, but hey, you get what you pay for. > >And BTW, why do the NRAs who can afford bunglows and >Gas Guzzlers go for cheap hotels in India (and then >use their experience as a benchmark against Indian Hotel industry). **** For a very simple reason: Those that are halfway decent are horribly expensive, like $ 300.00 per night or more. For that kind of money one could stay at the Ritz Carltons in the US. They complain about the horribly poor quality of the hotels that are highly overpriced, even by Indian standards. Those who complain won't if they could just get a clean bed with a flushing toilet and hot water in the shower in the winter and the panes not missing from windows and the like. > >.. can you suggest something which I should consider. *** Heard of tripadvisor? > >it will be safe to assume that you can afford 5 stars during your short stays in India . *** Yes I could, and I might have been driven to, if one were to be available conveniently, like next to the airport at Dum Dum and not half hour away at say Salt Lake or the Stadium or an hour away at Chowringhee or Park Circus. But I do not believe in throwing money away, even if I could afford to. To arrive at 3:00 AM and paying $ 300.00 to stay till 8:00 AM just does NOT make any sense. That is the difference. > >There are CHOICES everywhere just the way you found in >Calcutta or Delhi *** Why don't you tell us of a few at DumDum, the subject of the arguments. > >I have travelled extensively in India (particularly >South India) and there are definitely decent budget hotels. **** Well!!! That therefore sets the standard of the Indian hotel industry. Must be another example of cutting edge statistical savvy, driving desis to making sweeping judgements from the exceptions to the norm. At 10:29 AM -0800 1/13/08, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: > >>Proves what I heard about HOJO -- that it is not >>>something a >>>discerning traveler would patronize. Obviously the >>>jokes I heard when >>>we moved to St. Louis in 1975 had merit. > >Or the Days Inn >http://www.totalfrance.com/days_inn/days_inn_nightmare.html > >Or Travelodge -- >http://www.consumeraffairs.com/travel/travelodge.html > >Or the endless list of budget hotels in US. > >And many of these rated by AAA with its Diamond >rating. > >>>So when a desi H1B, highly skilled in information >collection , >>>knowing 'tripadvisor' like the palm of one's hand, >raking in high >>>wages, go zero in on a HOJO as a BRAND NAME to >trust, something tells >>>me there is a problem here, of expectations, at the >>>very least. > >Hmm.. not as high wage as you Sir ... sitting in a >luxury bunglow and advising Indians. >So I should discount HOJO as brand name, Days Inn as >brand name ... can you suggest something which I >should consider. > >And BTW, why do the NRAs who can afford bunglows and >Gas Guzzlers go for cheap hotels in India (and then >use their experience as a benchmark against Indian >Hotel industry). >Though you have learned all about my wage, I am not >exactly sure about your wage but from some bits and >pieces of info I have accumulated, it will be safe to >assume that you can afford 5 stars during your short >stays in India . > >>>There could be other problems too that one can >>>speculate on. But that >>>I will leave to the imagination of readers :-). > > >>>How does it stay in business? > >>>ONE answer would be that it has a sales weapon. >>>Perhaps cost. There > >Why not apply the same logic to the Dumdum hotel. > > >>>are people who cannot afford any better and are >>>forced to take what >>>is offered. Like the low cost grocery stores where >>>they sell >>>sub-standard and wilted or slightly rotting but >>>still edible produce. >>>Or the slum dwellings in ghettos. Or the used car >>>bought for $ 500. >>>So on and so forth. > > >>>Those of us who went thru the immigrant experience >>>and had no money >>>when we arrived in the country, should know. The >>>search for a motel >>>under $10.00 per night before darkness falls in >>>our weekend forays >>>into the heartland and backwoods of California is >>>still fresh in my >>>memory. Fortunately though we always did find a >>>clean and safe place. >>>Took a little doing, but one was always available, >>>somewhere. > > >>ANOTHER could be that these HOJO s are facilities in >certain >>>locations, exceptions to the norm. I am not >familiar with New York > >Excuse and more excuse. >BTW, any explanation why such HOJOs are rated by AAA >with its diamond rating which "lives upto its >reputation". > >Actually I can suggest you an easier excuse. Just >blame all these complaints against Desis suffering >from inferiority complex. > > >>>City, but 34th street does not ring a bell as a >destination spot. So, >>>while HOJO at 34th street may be like a Dum Dum >airport three star >>>facility or the one at Orlando is like a dharamsala >at Mathura, >others might be just fine and up to standard as >>>anything that could >be expected. > > >>>Therefore boils down to doing one's due >>>diligence. Because there >>>ARE plenty of good, reliable and reasonably priced >>>motels and hotels >>>across the USA, in small towns and big cities. I am >not that well >>>traveled, but from the little I have seen, US hotels >and motels are >>>the best VALUES > >There are CHOICES everywhere just the way you found in >Calcutta or Delhi > >I have travelled extensively in India (particularly >South India) and there are definitely decent budget >hotels. > >But anyway, just by seeing one or two hotels in one >or two locations of India, you seem to be the expert >:-) .... you know "I know better" thing > > >>> and most easily available in the world. Just like >>>food. > >>>On the other hand, are there such choices at Dum >>>Dum? Or at Guahati? > >>>That IS the issue, the point of the debate. > > > > > > > > >At 7:03 AM -0800 1/13/08, Krishnendu Chakraborty >wrote: >>Just a few complaints on HOJOs. There are tonns of >>such complaints on HOJO and other budget hotels if >you >>search the net . >> >> Food for thought for some HArvard MBA on how HOJO >>(and other budgest hotels) are still in business >> >>http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm/2003/10/25/HoJo >> >>http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60887-d123704-Reviews-Howard_Johnson_Inn_Suites_Springfield-Springfield_Illinois.html >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
