>DD: That definitely is Deka's personal view. Is it a commonly accepted >reality >in India? Since I haven't been to India in two years, I cannot >speak with >authority on that.
*** Oh! >I'd think that continual public utterance about liberation without the >>accompanying violence may attract a charge of 'sedition", *** Is it a legal opinion or just a legalistic opinion? >not of terrorism. >Also It may land you in "pagala Phatek" but definitely >not >in Tihar jail. :) *** That makes me I wonder if SOME OPINIONS are considered TERRORISM in India. I won't be surprised though. I think we need to refer this case to Dr. tilok too. Are you listening Tilok ? At 12:28 PM -0800 12/18/02, D Deka wrote: > *** But I still remain curious about: > >>>>-- What the convict hasn't yet realized is that asking for liberation is >>>>not >terrorism, >>> >>> >>>Is that Deka's personal view or is it a commonly accepted reality in >>>India today? Would anyone like to test the potency of POTA by uttering that >>>publicly in India? > >DD: That definitely is Deka's personal view. Is it a commonly accepted >reality in India? Since I haven't been to India in two years, I cannot >speak with authority on that. I'd think that continual public utterance >about liberation without the accompanying violence may attract a charge of >'sedition", not of terrorism. Also It may land you in "pagala Phatek" but >definitely not in Tihar jail. :) > > > > > > > > > >At 9:16 AM -0800 12/18/02, D Deka wrote: >>The symptoms of "Foot in Mouth" disease are being noticed. Our resident >>Goru Daktor will tell you that the antidote to this is to read the >>contents carefully before firing off a patent response based on >>preconceived notion about people. The same Goru Daktor will also tell you >>that not all visitors to the village clinic are sick. Not everyone has an >>agenda. Some visit just to do a little socializing and to drop off the >>latest gossip in the village. >> >>Dilip Deka >> >> Chan Mahanta wrote: >> >>Just noticed that the analysis >> >>>>Probably he thinks he is a soldier in an army and the battleground >>>>>extends to >the crowded bazaars in Kashmir and Delhi, and the government >>>>>offices. >> >> >>was about another fella, not Geelani. >> >>My mistake. >> >> >>****************************************************************************** >>* >> >> >>At 8:39 AM -0600 12/18/02, Chan Mahanta wrote: >>>>-- What the convict hasn't yet realized is that asking for liberation is >>>>not >terrorism, >>> >>> >>>*** Is that Deka's personal view or is it a commonly accepted reality in >>>India today? Would anyone like to test the potency of POTA by uttering that >>>publicly in India? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>--but an attempt to blow up the parliament and kill people in it is >>>>>terrorism. >>> >>>*** That would stand to reason. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Probably he thinks he is a soldier in an army and the battleground >>>>>extends to >the crowded bazaars in Kashmir and Delhi, and the government >>>>>offices. >>> >>> >>>*** I have not seen any report of the above charges against Geelani. >>>Neither of the two articles we saw in Assam Net suggests that Geelani was >>>either charged of "attempting to blow up parliamament' or being 'a soldier >>>in an army and the battleground extends to the crowded bazaars in Kashmir >>>and Delhi, and the government offices." >>> >>>It would be nice to see where they came from. I just hope it is not a >>>creation of assiduous analyses of Geelani's thought processes by expert >>>mind-readers :-). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>At 5:40 AM -0800 12/18/02, D Deka wrote: >>>>The following paragraph from the BBC news below is thought provoking. I am >>>>sure there will be various different views from the netters. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>[As Hussain left the courtroom, he was reported as saying: "If asking for >>>>the liberation of Kashmir is terrorism then I am a terrorist." ] -- What >>>>the convict hasn't yet realized is that asking for liberation is not >>>>terrorism, but an attempt to blow up the parliament and kill people in it >>>>is terrorism. Probably he thinks he is a soldier in an army and the >>>>battleground extends to the crowded bazaars in Kashmir and Delhi, and the >>>>government offices. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Dilip Deka >>>> >>>> Death sentences for India parliament raid >>>> Nine people were killed in the parliament attack >>>> An anti-terrorism court in Delhi has sentenced to death three men >>>>convicted of helping militants attack India's parliament last year. >>>> >>>>Mohammed Afzal, a 35-year-old fruit merchant, Shaukat Hussain and SAR >>>>Geelani, a Delhi college teacher, were convicted on Monday on charges of >>>>waging war on the state and conspiracy to murder. >>>> >>>>The fourth, Navjot or Afsan Guru, wife of Hussain, who was found guilty of >>>>"withholding information" from police, received five years imprisonment. >>>> >>>> They are enemies of mankind. They deserve no leniency >>>> >>>> Judge Dhingra >>>>Police say Afzal and Hussain are members of the Pakistan-backed militant >>>>group Jaish-e-Mohammad, fighting in Indian-administered Kashmir. >>>> >>>>Relations between India and Pakistan deteriorated after the attack, as >>>>they mobilised up to a million men along their common border, leading to >>>>international concern about a possible war. >>>> >>>>Lawyers for the men plan to appeal. >>>> >>>>The death sentence must also be ratified by a higher court under Indian >>>>law. >>>> >>>>Attack plot >>>> >>>>Judge SN Dhingra said the accused had also been inspired by Osama Bin >>>>Laden. >>>> >>>>"They are enemies of mankind. They deserve no leniency," he said. >>>> >>>>Nine people were shot dead when five armed gunmen entered the grounds of >>>>parliament in Delhi in December last year. >>>> >>>>All five attackers were shot dead by police. >>>> >>>>None of the accused took part in the attack, but prosecutors said they >>>>helped in the planning it. >>>> >>>>A recently-enacted anti-terrorism law views any aid to "terrorists" >>>>carrying out an attack as "terrorism". >>>> >>>>The judge said the accused had intended to capture parliament and to kill >>>>the prime minister and home minister. >>>> >>>>Kashmir >>>> >>>>As Hussain left the courtroom, he was reported as saying: "If asking for >>>>the liberation of Kashmir is terrorism then I am a terrorist." >>>> >>>>India blames Pakistan for backing Kashmiri militant attacks on India - a >>>>charge that Islamabad has denied. >>>> >>>>In recent months the tension has eased as both sides have pulled back >>>>their forces. >>>> >>>>And in October, a new government came to power in Indian-administered >>>>Kashmir after successful elections to the state legislative. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>> Yahoo! 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