dear Alpana ba, Trishul is the symbol of dhyan, the single minded conciousness from which creative force emanates in this earth. And at the same time Trishul is the symbol of creative destruction, the eternal force that destroy the evil of chaos to prepare for the next creation. Trishul is the ultimate symbol of Shiva conciousness. Please try to respect Hindu symbol. And, if you do not understand them, then read about them. But do not read Indian newspaper to formualte your knowledge about us, Hindus. Indian newspapers are ruled by Islamist who is pouring oil money to lure journalists to write against Hindus and our philosophy. --- "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Through us, the divine Karma is working to bring > peace and harmony in this world. We are hear to lead > West and Islam >towards peace and living, and not > towards mutual destruction > > Good to hear that, after all! > > Then I got confused. Why was the trishul > recommended? Is he more confused than us NRIs? > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barua25 > To: Bikram Chowdhury ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hindutva and its discontents > > > AND IN ASSAM YOU PLAN TO START THAT TRANSFORMATION > BY REPLACING THE GAMWSA WITH THE RSS TRISHUL > HOBO DIOK. > BARUA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bikram Chowdhury > To: Barua25 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hindutva and its > discontents > > > do not burn down your energy, my dear friend! > When we say we are against West, we do not say that > we prepare to create another 9/11. Hindutva believe > in transformation, as in the eternal phiosophy of > Veda, the power of transformation is considered as > the higest of all powers in this world. Karma, the > living and dynamic force of the universe operate > through the divine power of transformation. Before > you lose your energy or before you engage in debate, > please clear your head off from the jargons of India > media/communist scholars. And, try to experience the > working strategy of Sangh Parivar. Join in with us > to feel the way we work, and the way we plan. > Through us, the divine Karma is working to bring > peace and harmony in this world. We are hear to lead > West and Islam towards peace and living, and not > towards mutual destruction. So, dear NRIs, discuss > about Hindutva with your Islamic/Christian/Jews > friends, and tell them that if they want to have a > lasting solution of Isreal/Palestine, they must > reject prophetic faith adn embrace Yoga. If they > want to save the planet from pollution, they must > stop the hysteria of consumer economy. Today, yes we > are trying to match up with USA/West, yes we are > plugging in with the WTO, but do not be fool that we > want to follow those staff. Instead we want to bring > a radical transformation to the entire system so > that it become creative and not destructive. > Hindtuva uphold the value of Yoga. Hindtuva uphold > the value of justice for all and appeasment for > none. Hindutva believes that in this Earth, human > does not have the divine right to consume everything > that they can. They must learn to share resources > with everyone. In this regard, Hindutva believes > that capitalism is a form of economic cancer, the > way Islam/Christianity are two forms of spiritual > cancer. Hindtuva stand against cancer. > > Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We also stand against Capitalism, because we > believe that mankind has no right to enjoy the earth > resources just for sake of >bhog. For RSS, West is > a false empire based on false and illusive value. > Therefore, Hindutva stand against West. And we are > >powered by Karma. > Thank you for highlighting the fact that > RSS/HULFA is simply DREAMING like everybody else. > This is what exactly the Islam fundamentatlist > are saying. They also claim to be against the West. > Is RSS trying to turn India into an anti-west > civilisation? Do you realise the meaning of > Anti-West?. > In such a society : What the Indian Banias > will do? What would happen to the millions of Indian > Bolywood, Cricket fans? What would happen to the > stock market? What would happen to India's > competition with China? What would happen to our > space program? What would happen to our war against > Pakistan? Are you sure you are against Capitalism. > What happened to our Hindu philosophy: Jyogyo Bhogyo > Bosundhora? What happened to Hindu Ashwamedh Jogyo > for getting power to rule the country? What > happened to Kautilya's 'Arthoshastra :"the enemy of > your enemy is your friend"? > > Is RSS trying to kill the very pride of the > millions of Indians on which RSS is building the > base of Hindutva? > > Barua > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bikram Chowdhury > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:55 AM > Subject: [Assam] Hindutva and its > discontents > > > Very nice philosophical discussion. need > more. but then, here is a simple warning: do not > dissect your logic to the point that the logic > itself eat up your essence. So, do not take up the > doctrine of Karma and then try-to-fit it in so that > it suit your purpose. The essence of Karma, as > explained by Buddha and Krishan is the essence of > your wisdom to protect dharma, the truth. This is > the truth that Gandhi stood firm on, that colonial > empire is a false empire, that apartheid is wrong. > that untouchability is wrong. Gandhi acted through > the virtue of Karma. Today RSS is doing Gandhi's > unfinished agenda: that the empire of prophetic > faith is wrong, that "my God is true and your God is > false" is a wrong concept. Vashudhaiva Kutumbakam, > the world is one family. RSS stand for it. Hindtuva > stand for it. We are workign in teh essence of > Karma. > We also stand against Capitalism, because we > believe that mankind has no right to enjoy the earth > resources just for sake of bhog. For RSS, West is a > false empire based on false and illusive value. > Therefore, Hindutva stand against West. And we are > powered by Karma. > Now, here is another warning: do not get > illusive about definition. I know you guys love > definition, so you and Western gurus created the > word Hindusim and then struggled to define it. Hindu > is dharma, and it is beyond definition. It is a life > force,a biological force that cannot be defined. It > must be felt, and experienced. So, apart from > philosophical dissection of isms, you pundits of > communist/secularist, please try to develop your > soul and try to get some feeling into your > philosophical discussion. That will help you to > understand who we are, and what does the word Hindu > vibrate for. thank you > Bikram > Win an evening with the Indian cricket > captain: Yahoo! India Promos. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Assam mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > Mailing list FAQ: > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > To unsubscribe or change options: > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > Win an evening with the Indian cricket captain: > Yahoo! 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