>It is more about factors that cause conflict of >interest - between demographic groups, between >regions and between a region and the center of a >political state. >Santanu.
What are the causes for such conflicts. Are they for employment, water resources, industries, etc or are they for religion, ethinic domination/subjugation or for power? Ram --- "Roy, Santanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Consider the following facts: > 1. Bihar's per capita income is almost half of that > of Assam. > 2. UP has lower per capita income > 2. MP has a comparable per capita income > 3. Orissa (yes, even orissa) has a lower per capita > income. > http://indiabudget.nic.in/es2002-03/chapt2003/tab18.pdf > 4. In terms of indices of human development that > include literacy, nutrition, quality of life etc., > Assam ranks above Bihar, Orisssa and in some > indices, above UP, MP etc. > http://hdrc.undp.org.in/hds/HDFct/India/HDI991States.htm > Question: Why do we not see separationist insurgency > in these states? > Economics is important in understanding centrifugal > forces but it is not simply about development or the > lack thereof. > It is more about factors that cause conflict of > interest - between demographic groups, between > regions and between a region and the center of a > political state. > Santanu. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Chan Mahanta > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:31 PM > > To: ram Sarangapani; umesh sharma; > [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: Economic Development > > > > > > Hi Ram: > > > > > > You have made a bunch of comments that won't hold > up under scrutiny. > > But that is for later. Let me just ask you this: > > > > > > >Why don't we see insurgent groups in any of the > > >advanced countries? Do you believe, any any of > them > > >would want to break away from success? > > > > > > Are there no less developed states or groups in > the USA for example? > > > > There are aren't they? But they don't hold the > Federal Govt. > > responsible. They do not charge the Feds with > step-motherly > > treatment. They don't accuse them of ignoring them > or exploiting > > them. They hold the feds responsible for a lot of > things, but none > > whatsoever the Indian union's constituents do. > > > > > > Why do you think is the reason? > > > > > > c-da > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:54 PM -0800 1/5/05, ram Sarangapani wrote: > > >Hi Umesh, > > > > > >There are many reasons for any kind of unrest. > Many of > > >the root causes are because of economics. without > > >growth and development, there are fewer jobs, > > >businesses don't thrive well and so. Then there > arises > > >questions like 'have we been overlooked' or why > did > > >xyz area get these benefits (and not us). > > > > > >In fact if you look into the main reasons why a > number > > >of ethinic groups are demanding that they be > declared > > >as scheduled caste/tribe or OBC, you will find > > >economic factors again. These groups (right or > wrong) > > >want certain quotas to benefiit them for > > >jobs/education. And they may have a valid case as > many > > >such were marginalized at some point. > > > > > >My point simply is this. Unrests arise more often > than > > >not because of economic problems. Later on many > such > > >movements will try to rationalize this as being > > >patriotic, religious or even color. > > > > > >What galls me is that some are still trying to > justify > > >some of these by totally discounting economics > and > > >potraying it as something else. > > > > > >However, I do think other factors like > ethinicity, > > >religion, language etc all contribute to unrest. > But > > >if the economics were right, few groups would > want to > > >get off the gravy train. > > > > > >Why don't we see insurgent groups in any of the > > >advanced countries? Do you believe, any any of > them > > >would want to break away from success? There are > of > > >course cases like some groups in Texas who want > their > > >own homeland (Texas) - but most will agree they > are > > >off the deep end. > > > > > >--Ram da > > > > > >--- umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> To an extent I agree with Ram-da. > > >> > > >> But birds don't want to live in golden cages > either > > >> - if you make it too stifling for them. > > >> > > >> For example, this Earth is our cage but we > don't > > >> want to leave it, but if we are confined to > our room > > >> only -we would start jumping - even with all > the > > >> delicacies and sensual pleasures at our > disposal. > > >> > > >> I don't know where we all stand on this. > > >> > > >> Umesh > > >> > > >> Ram-da wrote: > > >> > > >> economic problems are the root cause of > > >> alienations, specially in the case of the NE. > > >> > > >> If Assam/NE was a well-developed area, there > would > > >> be > > >> far fewer young men/women wanting to join some > > >> insurgent group. > > >> > > >> ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> C'da > > >> > > >> > > >> >Will featuring in the national anthem salve > > >> > those kharkhowa hurts, if not eradicate > them? > > >> > > >> Thats a big jumb to conclusions. Nobody has > said > > >> that. > > >> You are just putting words into my mouth. > > >> > > >> > Does not even rhyme. It would be a an anthem > > >> > singer's nightmare. > > >> > > >> Heh! heh! heh!. You seemed to have done a > pretty > > >> good > > >> job. I will buy your rendition any time -:) > > >> > > >> >Incidentally, one of the most glaring > omissions or > > >> >ignorances some of you demonstrated last week > about > > >> >Assam's alienations were your beliefs that it > was > > >> >all about economic development or lack of it. > > >> >Shows how much you guys are out of it. > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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