I agree with your assessment completely here. One of the best ever I have read on the subject.


I also had the privilege of meeting Prof. Donald Smith, a scholar on Indian Governance, who wrote "India as a Secular State" several years ago and chatted with him on different topics related to India. One I remember vividly, about what a dim view he took of Narasimha Rao's fiddling while LKA etc. went on a rath-jatra to Ayodhya to tear down the Babri Mosque. I wished I had more time to talk to him.


c









At 10:43 PM -0600 2/26/05, Barua25 wrote:
Ram:
Thanks for the posting. A great enlightening and intellectual writing by an
Indian. The name Jahagirdar sounds like a Persi? Is he?
Barua

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> Here is a great lecture by Mr. Justice R. A. Jahagirdar at the
 The Eight Smt. Bansari Sheth Memorial Lecture delivered
 under the auspices of The Asiatic Society of Bombay on Wednesday, 26th
 April 2000

 C'da,  you brought up a salient point - shouldn't Secularism, Indian
 or Western mean the same thing.

 I would agree with you, that there ought not be any differences the
 meaning of secularism. It should be the same, where ever practiced.

 Well, here are some answers and great quotations.

 --Ram
 ____________
 Indian Secularism versus universal secularism

 Discussion on a wide scale has been taking place on the subject of
 Secularism in India after 1965. This coincided with the publication of
 > the pioneering book of Prof. Donald Smith of Princeton University. The
 > book was "India as a Secular State". ( Princeton University Press,
 Princeton, 1966). Round about the same time, 12 essays contributed to
 a Seminar organised in November 1965 by the Indian Law Institute were
 published in a book titled "Secularism: Its Implications for Law and
 Life in India". The contributors of the essays included outstanding
 intellectuals - the then Chief Justice of India, two Judges of
 Allahabad High Court and an eminent Jurist. Later in 1968, another
 book of essays by different thinkers was published. The book was
 edited by Prof. V.K. Sinha and published by Lalvani Publishing House,
 Bombay.

 In 1956, Prof. Abid Husain's book "The National Culture of India"
 (National Book Trust, New Delhi) was published. That book did not
 attempt any discussion on Secularism but the Foreword to the book
 written by Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, then Vice-President of India,
 contains the following observation :

 "It may appear somewhat strange that our Government should be a
 secular one while our culture is rooted in spiritual values.
 Secularism here does not mean irreligious or atheism or even stress on
 material comforts. It proclaims that it lays stress on the
 universalisation of spiritual values which may be attained by a
 variety of ways."

 Subsequently in February 1970, Mr. P.B. Gajendragadkar, the then
 Vice-Chancellor of Bombay University, delivered K.T. Telang Endowment
 Lectures on "Secularism and the Constitution of India", which has been
 published in a book form in 1971 by Tripathi, Bombay. These lectures
 are full of erudition and deal in great details with Hinduism and
 other related subjects. The questions that would be discussed in the
 lectures had been posed initially as follows:

 "Is the new society which we want to create, a Secular Society? Is the
 Sovereign democratic republic of India a Secular State? What are the
 distinguishing features of Indian Secularism as contemplated by our
 Constitution?" (p. 1.emphasis mine)
>
 Secularism - in my opinion and I will try to demonstrate that - cannot
 mean different things in different countries. Further Mr.
 Gajendragadkar says:

 "The word 'secular', like the word 'religious' is amongst the richest
 of all words in its range of meaning. It is full of subtle shades,
 which involve internal contradictions, and of those contradictions the
 conventional dictionary meaning can scarcely give a correct
 view."(p.2)

 The later discussion in India has been coloured by this view.

 I have great objection to this meaning given to the word 'secularism'.
 In the first place it says that there is an Indian type of secularism;
 secondly it says, the word 'secularism' contains internal
 contradictions and that thirdly you cannot understand the meaning of
 these contradictions because no dictionary can help you in this
 regard. In other words, the word 'secular' has only subjective meaning
 and every one can use it in any way one likes.


Secularism is a clear concept

 In this article I wish to demonstrate that:

 There is no such thing as Indian Secularism and English Secularism -
 there is only one secularism which has universal meaning;


There are no internal contradictions in the concept of secularism and if there are any contradictions, they are between secularism and non-secular practices;


There is a well-established and widely accepted dictionary meaning which has stood unaltered for a period of nearly a century and half since 1851 when George Holyoake coined that word and gave it an explicit meaning.

 The discussion that has taken place on a wide scale and over a period
 of years - decades - and the large literature that has been published
 have address the question: what meaning should be given to secularism
 in India or to Indian secularism? Some have argued, quite frankly,
 that secularism as historically understood, does not suit India.
 Taking liberty with the alleged flexible meaning of the word, you can
 talk of Hindu or Aryan or even Vedic secularism or Islamic secularism.
 As a result, the discussion of this subject in India has become
 skewed. I wish, in all humility, to point out that all this distortion
 of the word is not necessary and if we find that a particular state of
 affairs does not fit in the concept of secularism correctly
 understood, change the state of affairs, not the meaning of the word,
 or use a different appropriate word. When words of a certain kind have
 been in use, to employ those words as signs of new meanings is to be
 guilty of counterfeiting. New verbal signs can always be found for new
 meanings (see p.284 of 'Reason, Social Rights and Democracy' by Sidney
 Hook, 1991 Prometheus Books).


History of the word Secularism

 The meaning of the word secularism is not shrouded in any mystery. It
 is not an ancient or archaic word having been used by Chaucer or
 Shakespeare.

 A beginning may be made with the dictionary. The Oxford English
 Dictionary (OED Vol.IX 1978) states that Secularism is the doctrine
 that morality should be based solely on regard to the well-being of
 mankind in the present life to the exclusion of all considerations
 drawn from belief in God or in a future state. OED further points out,
 rightly, that it was George Holyoake (1817-1906) who gave this name to
 the definitely professed system of belief.

 Earlier OED gives the meaning of the word 'secular' as: "belonging to
 the world and its affairs as distinguished from the Church and
 religion".


George J. Holyoake, to whom has been credited the coinage of the word secularism, was an Owenite and had founded in 1846 a weekly called "Reasoner" for the propagation of Owenism. In an issue of "Reasoner" in 1851, he issued a statement of secularist doctrine proclaiming:

 science as the true guide of man;
 morality as secular, not religious, in origin;
 reason the only authority;
 freedom of thought and speech;
 that owing to the 'uncertainty of survival' we should direct our
 efforts to this life only.
> There was, in the latter part of 19th Century in England, a debate as
 to whether atheism, the denial of the existence of God, was an
 essential element of secularism. It may be mentioned here that
 Holyoake himself was not a theist. In 1841, in a public meeting,
 provoked by a heckler, Holyoake had asserted that England was too poor
 a country to have a God and that it would not be "a bad idea to put
 Him on half-pay" (i.e. retire him) and had been for this blasphemous
 utterance sentenced to six months' imprisonment.

 George Holyoake and Charles Bradlaugh were two leading secularists and
 atheists of England in the 19th Century. Holyoake was no less an
 atheist than Bradlaugh, though they did not agree on the question
 whether atheism was a necessary ingredient of secularism. Holyoake
 thought, ignoring God was enough; for Bradlaugh, denial of God was
 essential. In March 1870 there was a public debate between Holyoake
 and Bradlaugh on this subject and Austin Holyoake chaired the meeting.
 I do not for the present intend to go into that controversy.

 The texts of the speeches of Holyoake and Bradlaugh in this debate
 have been published. I am taking the liberty of referring to the
 speech of Holyoake for gathering the correct connotation of the word
 secularism which word, after all, was coined by Holyoake. He says :

 "If you desire a brief summary, which may be given in a few words, of
 what the principles to which I have adverted, point to -so far as
 meets the object of this discussion- I would state them thus:
 1. Secularism maintains the sufficiency of secular reason for guidance
 in human duties.
 2. The adequacy of the utilitarian rule which makes the good of
 others, the law of duty.
 3. The duty nearest at hand and most reliable in results, is the use
 of material means tempered by human sympathy, for the attainment of
 social improvement.
 4. The sinlessness of well-informed sincerity.
 5. The sign and condition of such sincerity are free thought
 expository speech..."

 Holyoake points out that to maintain sufficiency of reason is
 absolutely indispensable. He accepts that this is a heretical position
 and therefore the secularist, standing apart, does not include himself
 among Christians, does not need to profess Christianity [ See "A
 Second Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism", Ed. Garden Stein,
 Prometheus Books, Buffalo, N.Y. 1987 p.348 ]. It must follow from this
 that an adherent of Christianity, or of any other religion, cannot be
 a secularist.

 Enunciating its principles, The National Secular Society (of England)
 declared that "the promotion of human improvement and happiness is the
 highest duty. That the theological teachings of the world have been,
 and are most powerfully obstructive of human improvement and
 happiness. ..." [Ibid. p.363].


More definitions of Secularism

 I am obliged to burden this talk with some more quotations because
 they are from books of knowledge to which contributions are made by
 eminent scholars in the field.

 Encyclopaedia Britannica says that secularism is "a movement in
 society directed away from other worldliness to life on earth". In the
 medieval period there was a strong tendency for religious persons to
 despise human affairs and to meditate upon God and the other life. The
 Encyclopaedia further points out that secularism arose as a reaction
 to this tendency during European Renaissance when man began to show
 more interest in human cultural achievements and the possibilities of
 fulfillment of his personality in this world. It may be added that
 from Renaissance three streams flowed - Secularism, Humanism and
 Rationalism - the last one getting particularised only in the 18th
 Century.

 Renaissance persuaded the scholars to study man as a citizen of this
 world. That led to humanism. It also necessarily gave birth to a
 desire or an urge to study this world. This gradually led to
 rationalism and science. The word secularism was not born in
 Renaissance but the idea was born - as a reaction to the futile,
> fruitless attitude prevalent all through the medieval ages of
 indifference to human affairs and of contemplation of the other world.

Encyclopaedia of Social Sciences (Vol.XX, p.264, 1960 Edition) [ESS]
explains :

"If secularism is defined as the attempt to establish an autonomous sphere of knowledge purged of supernatural, fictitious presuppositions, its modern origins are to be traced to the later Middle Ages of Western Europe. The distinction drawn up by the scholastics between faith and knowledge while it left room for revealed theology, was also capable of evaluating in a type of philosophical or natural theology which placed its chief emphasis on the truths perceptible by human reason - a broad category which subserved not only all physical knowledge but even metaphysical knowledge of God".

 The ESS points out that the ideal of human and social happiness
 proclaimed by the French Revolution has continued to influence
 subsequent generations of political and social workers. It is further
 pointed out that this has to some extent moulded the temper of some
 religious groups who are now compelled to accept that mankind shall
 strive by the most enlightened methods to establish social justice and
 welfare.

 Even the Encyclopaedia Britannica points out that in the latter half
 of the Twentieth Century some theologians have been advocating Secular
 Christianity by suggesting that Christianity should not be concerned
 only with the sacred and the otherworldly. The power of secularism is
 derived from its close connection with science, and in the union of
 social and scientific secularism, the movement begun in Renaissance
 has been gathering momentum and finds its logical climax.

 The Social Science Encyclopaedia (Ed. Adam Keeper & Jessica Keeper -
 Roufledge & Kegan Paul 1985, p.737) points out that secularisation
 refers to the displacement of religious beliefs, rituals and sense of
 community from the moral life of society. The major institutions of
 society became legitimated by secular ideologies and formal legal
 doctrines rather than by religions. It was the philosophy of
 enlightenment that provided the pivotal impetus towards the
 thoroughgoing secularisation.

 At the root of secularism is the principle that the society should be
 founded on principles devised by rational inquiry into the universal
 nature of human social life. The ESS has cited other authors who have
 pointed out the other facets of secularism. For example:

 The rational principles of social organisation are antithetical to
 religious traditions based upon faith;
 The moral authority of ideologies independent of religious ethics was
 established for evaluating economic, political stratifications and
 other social arrangements;
 Despite their rootedness in European culture, secular ideologies have
 taken on moral authority in many civilisations around the globe,
 somewhat in the manner of world religions.
 Let me enumerate some of the propositions that emerge from the
 discussion so far or that are necessary to understand what follows:

 Secularism is a system of social organisation and education which
 believes that religion has no part to play in the problems and events
 of every day life.
 A culture is seen as secular when its acceptance is based on rational
 and utilitarian considerations rather than on reverence and
 veneration.
 A secular society is one that engenders in or elicits from its members
 readiness to change customary orientation towards or definition of
 values regarded as essential in that society.
 Secularism on the part of the individual means a rational state of
 mind which refuses to recognise the arbitrary authority of any
 individual or any book.
 In the context of "State" or "Society", secularism means an endeavour
 on the part of State or Society to modernise the societal values and
 thus a policy of not being influenced by beliefs or values of any one
 or other religious group.

 Secularism in Practice within the US

The next step in the discussion is to study the American experiment
> which correctly interprets and practices Secularism. Let me hasten to
 add that the word secularism is not to be found in the Constitution of
 U.S.A. But the doctrine is embodied in it. The thirteen colonies of
 England in North America issued a Declaration of Independence on 4th
 July 1776. The U.S. Constitution drafted by the Philadelphia
 Convention was ratified in 1789. Article VI, Section 3, of the
 Constitution reads as follows:

 "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of
 the several State legislatures, and all executive and judicial
 officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall
 be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no
 religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office
 or public trust under the United States." [ Emphasis provided ]

 Two things in this Article stand out prominently. First, any person
 about to enter a public office need not necessarily swear in the name
 of God; it is sufficient if he makes a solemn affirmation. We in India
 may not be able to appreciate the significance of this provision; our
 Constitution has always contained this provision. But it was a
 path-breaking enactment in the eighteenth Century. In England, even in
 19th Century, Charles Bradlaugh was not allowed to take seat in the
 House of Commons though his constituency repeatedly elected him - in
 fact five times. The reason - he was an atheist. Bradlaugh agreed to
 take the prescribed oath but the House said that he would not be
 allowed to take the oath because he was an atheist. This was in the
 latter half of the nineteenth century. Bradlaugh ultimately took the
 oath and his seat after getting elected again in July 1886 - this time
 no member of the House raised any question.

 It should be noted here that Bradlaugh had at one stage made the
 following declaration:

 "Any form I went through, any oath that I took, I shall regard as
 binding upon my conscience in the fullest degree, and I would go
 through no form and take no oath unless I meant it to be so binding."

 It was only under the Affirmation Act of 1888 that the atheists could
 take seats in the Parliament by solemnly affirming rather than
 swearing in the name of God - more than 100 years after the U.S. had
 so provided.

 The second important thing about Article VI(3) is the fact that a
 person of any religious persuasion can hold any public office in
 U.S.A. because no religious test is required of such a person. A
 religious test is a test demanding the avowal or repudiation of
 certain religious beliefs.

 In 1961 the U.S. Supreme Court held that a State constitutional
 requirement requiring a belief in God as a qualification for office
 was unconstitutional. [Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 US 488 (1961)]. In this
 judgment, the phrase 'Secular Humanism', which became very popular
 later, was first used by Justice Hugo Black. Roy Torcaso, who had been
 appointed as Notary Public by the Governor of Maryland, was refused
 commission on the ground that he refused to affirm that he believed in
 God. In an action brought by Torcaso, Justice Black held that the
 Plaintiff was entitled to the protection of the First Amendment.
 Justice Black mentioned that secular humanism is one of a number of
 religions like Buddhism "which do not teach what would generally be
 considered a belief in the existence of God". (Ref. 'Religious Liberty
 and the Secular Society' by John M. Swomley, Prometheus Books, p.117).

 No oath - only affirmation.
 A person of any religious belief or of no religious belief can hold a
 public office.


However, during the two hundred years of the U.S. Constitutional history, there is no known case of any President making a solemn affirmation. In 1962, neither earlier nor later, a Christian not belonging to any Protestant denomination was elected the President of the United States. No non-Christian has been so elected so far. I should, however, add that many non-Protestant Christians and
> non-Christians have occupied other positions - some of them with great
 distinction. Justice Felix Frankfurter is a notable example.

 Then came the First Amendment, by which the following provision was
 added to the Constitution in 1791 :

 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or
 prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
 speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
 assemble, and to petition to government for a redressal of their
 grievances." (Emphasis added)

 The clause to which emphasis has been provided (by me) is the clause
 which is relevant for our discussion. The word secularism has not been
 used in the American Constitution. But the First Amendment is a
 repudiation of religion as an authority in the governance of the
 country. The case law that has been developed in the U.S.A. on this
 subject has been vast and makes very interesting study. This is not
 the place to enter into a detailed study of this subject. However, I
 must refer to some landmark judgments of the Supreme Court of U.S.A.
 which has throughout taken a consistent view in this matter.

 Initially some theorists were of the view that the establishment
 clause only prevented preferential treatment to any religion or
 religions and did not prohibit the use of religion in public life.
 However, subsequently, by a series of judgments the Supreme Court of
 the U.S.A. has held till today that the U.S. Constitution debars the
 U.S. Government and the State Governments, the Congress and the State
 Legislatures from having any connection with any religion.

 In 1801, Thomas Jefferson was elected President. In a letter which he
 wrote to a group of Baptists he asserted that it was the purpose of
 the First Amendment to build "a wall of separation between Church and
 State". It is this total separation between the Church and the State
 that makes the American Constitution politically a secular
 Constitution, though the words 'secular' and 'secularism' are not
 found in it. In 1879, more than 70 years after the Jefferson letter,
 the U.S. Supreme Court accepted that statement by Jefferson as "almost
 an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment"
 [Reynolds v. U.S. 98 U.S. 145 (1879)]

 Some landmark judgments of the U.S. Supreme Court should now be
 considered. In 1947, the Supreme Court by the thinnest margin held as
 constitutionally valid the provision of free transportation by the
 State of New Jersey to children of parochial schools. This has been
 justified on the ground of provision of such a facility to school
 children as a safety measure on highways (Everton v. Board of
 Education, 330 US-1947). However, in the same judgment the following
 words of warning were written :

 The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at
 least this :

 Neither a State nor the Federal Government can set up a Church;
 Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or
 prefer one religion over another;
 Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or remain away from
 Church against his will;
 Neither can force a person to profess a belief or disbelief in any
religion;
 No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious
 beliefs or disbeliefs, for Church attendance or non-attendance;
 No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any
 religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or
 whatever forms they adopt to teach or practice religion;
 Neither a State nor the Federal Government can openly or secretly,
 participate in the affairs of any religious organisations or groups
 and vice versa.
 ( Emphasis added )
 The following other propositions have been established by the other
 decisions handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court:

 It is not separation of Church and State to permit religious
 instruction in the State's tax-supported school buildings even to
 willing children whose parents have requested for it.
> A "released time" programme under which religious instruction takes
 place off the school ground is permissible because the State is not
 hostile to religion.
 Recitation of even non-denominational prayers is not permissible in a
 State-aided school because it gives preferential treatment to those
 who believe in religion or God as against those who do not so believe.

 The so-called science of creationism is not a science at all; it is
 teaching of the Bible which is not permissible (Bible can be studied
 but not taught).


The Court has taken a view that statutes involving excessive entanglements of State with Church in the matter of implementation would be invalid. Therefore - - a statute providing salary supplements to teachers in secular subjects in non-public schools operated for the benefit of parochial schools; and - a statute providing reimbursement to non-public schools for teachers' salaries and instructional material used in the teaching of secular subjects

 were both held invalid as they involved excessive entanglements of
 State with religious matters.


In Engel v. Vitale (370 US 421; 1962) even optional prayers in aided schools were held to be unconstitutional. There was a furious reaction to this decision. There were countrywide demands that the judges should resign; if they did not, they should be impeached. The majority decision was delivered by Justice Hugo Black who was a devout Baptist and Sunday school preacher. He was denounced as a Communist and an atheist. This case illustrates the detachment from personal view that the judges display in their work.

 Black was in his younger days a member of Ku Klux Klan and anti-Black.
 As a judge of the U.S. Supreme Court he was a strong desegregationist.
 Carl Sogan has pointed out that as a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Black
 wore white robes and intimidated the blacks; as a member of the
 Supreme Court, he wore black robes and intimidated the whites. (on
 p.431 of 'The Demonhaunted World', Random House, New York).

 Kennedy, who was then the President of U.S.A., called upon the
 Americans to accept the decision which was 'welcome reminder to every
 American family that we can pray a good deal more at home and attend
 our Churches with a good deal more fidelity and we can make the true
 meaning of prayer more important in the lives of all of our children'.
 ("The First Freedom" by Net Hentoff, Delacarte Press, New York, p.156.

 There are some only of the several propositions handed down by the
 Supreme Court which clearly show that no part of the money belonging
 to the State can be applied directly or indirectly for a religious
 purpose - however small it may be. This is in my opinion true
 secularism though that word had not yet come in vogue at that time.

 I must hasten to mention here that secularism enshrined in the
 American Constitution is not the result of a movement for secularism.
 Provision for secularism was made to prevent any religion or any sect
 gaining a more advantageous position than another. America is
 inhabited by a large number of Christian denominations which were not
 always tolerant of each other. Different sects were in dominant
 positions in different States. In order to avoid conflicts among the
 different denominations and in order to avoid the dominance by any one
 denomination, the State was prohibited from having anything to do with
 religion in any manner. A French visitor to the U.S.A. found that in
 that country there were a dozen sects but only one sauce. Americans
 are not secular, but U.S.A. has a secular Constitution.



 Secularism in France

 After noticing that in America secularism was established practically
 without any fight or controversy, one must turn to France where
 secularism came to be established firmly after a gradual conquest of
 the ground. Europe had been ravaged for a long time by religious
 persecutions and wars. That was in fact the main reason why many
 Europeans migrated to the New World. France had been the arena for the
> oppression of different Protestant sects. Only two years before the
 Revolution i.e. in November 1787, the existence of non-Catholics was
 recognised by an edict. But Louis XVI specified that the Roman
 Catholic Church alone would continue to enjoy public worship in
 France. Non-Catholics continued to have civil and political
 disabilities.

 Then the Revolution took place on 14th July 1789. The Roman Catholic
 Church was too strong to be swept away easily. Secularisation in
 France took place in stages. The Declaration of Rights of Man and
 Citizen stated in Article 10 :

 "No one is to be disquieted because of his opinions, even religions,
 provided their manifestation does not disturb public order established
 by law."

 First, in 1789 December, all non-Catholics (save the Jews) were freed
 from civil and political disabilities. The Constitution of September
 3, 1891 abolished the disabilities of Jews. The first stage was to
 basically remove the disadvantages associated with religion.

Certain revolutionary groups became active proclaiming the supremacy of
reason:

"The cult of eternal Reason is the only one worthy of a free and enlightened nation." "We shall revere only Reason; Equality and Liberty are our gods." "Let us erase superstition's yoke to the last trace. Let Reason take its place, Reason which is heaven sent."

 Among these and other slogans, Goddess Reason was worshipped. National
 holidays, not based upon religions, were declared. The Church was not
 abolished but the Roman Catholics accepted the position that Church
 was in the State and not the State in the Church.


Different stages of secularism in France

 I will indicate briefly the different stages of secularisation:

 The State took over from the Church the registration of births, deaths
 and marriages.

 Education system was overhauled and the teaching institutions were
 removed from the control of the Church and put under the authority of
 the State. Between 1801 and 1804, the Civil Code, a comprehensive one,
 was introduced - this marked a complete break from the authority of
 the Roman Catholic Church over French legislation. The Preamble to the
 Code proclaimed that there exists a universal and immutable law and
 "it is nothing else than natural reason in so far as it governs all
 men".

 The overall political and social situation that was thus created has
 been described by the French word laicite for which, scholars say,
 there is no English equivalent. One dictionary "Dictionaire de la
 Langue Francase" by Petit Le Robert describes 'laicite' as the
 principle of separation of civil society and religious society, the
 State exercising no religious power and the Church exercising no
 political power. This does not adequately convey the idea of
 secularism but for the purpose of this talk I will use the word
 'secular' for 'laicite' and secularisation for 'laicization', the
 process of making secular.

 The general framework contained three characteristics:

 1) the State no longer ensures the salvation of the people,
 2) the State involves itself only with the citizens' common earthly
interest,
 3) the State considers itself not to be in a position to impose
 specific religious doctrines.

 To be sure, religion was not ignored. In fact the purported religious
 needs of the citizens were recognised and the State paid stipends to
 ministers of recognised religions.


The second stage of secularisation in France is marked by the passing of a law of separation of State and Church on 11th December 1905. Before that happened, certain other events took place in the process of secularisation. The law prohibiting work on Sundays was repealed. The provision for divorce was introduced. Distinction between the burial grounds of different religions was abolished. The reform of the educational system has already been mentioned.

 The Act of 1905 provided that the Republic neither recognises nor pays
 nor subsidises any religion. This meant in practice the denial of the
> usefulness of religions recognised earlier. Between 1905 and today
 several developments took place which at one time weakened the fabric
 of secularism (laicite) and sometimes strengthened it. These ups and
 downs reflected the social and political fluctuations in France. The
 debate goes on mostly in the field of education. Religions are studied
 today but are not taught. In the French Republican School, it is said,
 one does not learn to believe, but to reason.

 >From what has been said about the birth and growth of secularism, in
 France it is seen that it is a product of social and political
 development. 'Laicite' in France is being subjected to new challenges
 during the last decade and a half. This is primarily due to the
 immigrant population of Muslims from the erstwhile French Colonies in
 North Africa. The Islamist groups are seeking a special status in the
 Secular Republic.

 The episode involving the headscarves which arose in 1989 provides a
 typical example of this challenge. The principal of a school (in
 Creil), himself an immigrant from the Caribbean, forbade three Muslim
 girls from attending the classes with the headscarves worn purportedly
 to conceal their hair - an action which he justified on the ground of
 laicite. The then Minister of Education, who later became Prime
 Minister, tried to work out a compromise by suggesting that the
 children and their parents should be persuaded not to wear the scarves
 while attending the classes and if they are not persuaded, they should
 be allowed in the school. "Munich of the Republican School" shouted
 the secular intelligentsia of the country.

 Then there are several issues springing up from this and similar
 incidents. The educational institution is totally a secular
 institution - is it not entitled to insist that patently religious
 symbolism should not be displayed in its premises? To the progressives
 and non-religious, the headscarf symbolised the subservience of woman.
 Moreover, it created separateness in a group of students. They insist
 that when a person comes to France as an immigrant, he enters not only
 a country but also a history and a culture.

 In a still later incident, sometime in 1994, the then Minister
 advocated that prohibition of 'ostentatious insignia' be included in
 the school regulations. The problem rests there and has not been
 resolved to the satisfaction of either party. The French have, in a
 poll conducted, expressed their view that fanaticism, submission and
 rejection of Western values were characteristic of Islam. What is the
 religious composition of French population? No one knows, because the
 census does not record the religion of the French citizen. It appears
 that secularism, like democracy, needs constant vigilance. (For an
 excellent account of the French experiment, see Two Thresholds of
 Laicization by Jean Beubarot in "Secularism and Its Critics", Ed.
 Rajeev Bhargav, OUP 1998).

 Secularism in America, which entered the Constitution through the
 first Amendment, got firmly entrenched by judicial decisions - thanks
 to the initial interpretation given to it by Thomas Jefferson. The
 idea of separation of Church and State in France was the product of
 the Revolution and has been fortified by social, cultural and
 political developments.


Secularism in Turkey

 I must now turn to another country where secularism has been thrust
 upon the people by one who was for all purposes a dictator but where
 it has been subsequently supported and sustained by the population.
 That is Turkey. The Chief Executive of Pakistan, General Musharaff,
 within few days of his capturing power, declared that his role model
 would be the Turkish Secularist reformer, Mustafa Kamal Ataturk. There
 is in some minds a lurking feeling that Kamal Pasha was basically a
 good Musalman who brought about reforms in Turkey. Khaled Ahmed, the
 editor of Friday Times of Lahore, has, in an article contributed to
 "On the Abyss" (2000, Harper Collins), stated as follows:
>
 "Ataturk had been admired by the founder of Pakistan, Mohammed Ali
 Jinnah. The first book he gave his daughter Dina in the 1930s was a
 biography of the Grey Wolf. Poet Muhammad Iqbal, considered the
 philosopher of the State in Pakistan, had supported the secular
 experiment of Ataturk in Turkey in his famous 1929 English
 Lectures".(page 85)

 The lectures referred are "The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in
 Islam" delivered in 1929. They were first published in London in 1931
 but the book has been out of print for a long time (Those who are
 interested in the subject will be glad to know that it is now
 available having been republished recently by Kitab Bhavan, New
 Delhi).

 I was a little surprised by the reference to Muhammad Iqbal, a known
 anti-liberal and anti-secularist, as an admirer of Kamal Pasha. I was
 naturally driven to check the original.

 Iqbal, in his lecture on "The Principle of Movement in the Structure
 of Islam" (One of the lectures delivered in 1929 and included in
 "Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam") has, at some length,
 discussed what is known as Ijtihad in Islam i.e. literature. Referring
 to the line of thought of the Nationalist Party in Turkey, he points
 out, correctly, that the point of supreme interest of that party was
 the State and not religion and that party emphasises the separation of
 Church and State. The assimilation of the theory of separation by the
 Turkish Nationalists is, according to Iqbal, misleading in as much as
 it suggests a dualism which does not exist in Islam. He endorses the
 view of Said Halim Pasha, of the Religious Reform Party, which said
 that Islam - the world of Islam - is one and it has no fatherland.
 Said Halim Pasha had further said that modern culture based on
 national egoism is another form of barbarism - a view Iqbal commends.

 There is no admiration anywhere in these lectures of Kamal Ataturk.
 The only thing which Iqbal accepts is the vesting of Caliphate in an
 assembly - a body of persons - which was done by the Turks initially.
 Even this had become irrelevant by the time Iqbal delivered his
 lectures. Having abolished Sultanate on 1st November 1922, Kamal
 proceeded to abolish Caliphate itself on 3rd March 1924 and on the
 same day Ministry of Religious Affairs and Religious Schools was
 abolished. Continuing the narration of events, Kamal proceeded to ban
 fez cap, suppress religious brotherhoods and close down sacred tombs
 as places of worship. In 1926 February, new Civil Law Code was adopted
 which, among other things, made it impossible for a Muslim to
 summarily divorce his wife. Kamal had, however, given Talaq to his
 wife in August 1925.

 Therefore, when General Musharaff declared that his role model would
 be Mustafa Kamal Ataturk, the religious parties were stunned into
 silence. Qazi Hussein Ahmed of Jamaat-e-Islam said: "How can Ataturk,
 who destroyed the Islamic ideology, be the ideal of a Pakistan ruler?
 Those who are making such senseless statements to make God angry and
 America happy should learn a lesson from the fate of Nawaz Sharif".

 Let me briefly refer to the experiment of Turkey under Mustafa Kamal
 Pasha. After the break up of Ottoman Empire following the First World
 War, the institution of Calipha became incongruous. I will avoid the
 tortuous and bloody events that preceded the rise to power of Kamal
 Pasha who, in 1924, abolished the Caliphate. Earlier Indian Muslims in
 cooperation with Gandhi had agitated for the protection of the
 Caliphate and against the threat of its abolition.


It is also necessary to note that Kamal had become distrustful of Indian Muslims because the then Aga Khan and the former Judge Amir Ali sent a joint letter to Kamal Pasha protesting against the treatment given to the Caliph and asking him to treat the Caliph with dignity and respect. In this letter they claimed that they were speaking on behalf of millions of Indian Muslims. Kamal Pasha was firmly against Turkey being entangled with Arabic countries or with India. For this
> reason and also for the reason that he wanted no religion in public
 affairs, he refused to become Calipha himself when beseeched to do so
 by, among others, Indian Muslims.

 What did Kamal Pasha then do? He proceeded to secularise the Turkish
 society and State. By this time he had become a dictator having
 throttled the opposition in the National assembly. He attacked the fez
 cap which was associated with Turkish Islam. Wearing a fez cap was
 made a criminal offence. Nehru rightly points out that the fez cap was
 inoffensive and when it was banned, riots broke out and they were
 ruthlessly suppressed. "It sounds rather silly to attach so much
 importance to a headdress. What is much more important is what is
 inside the head, not what is on top of it" (Glimpses of World History
 by Jawaharlal Nehru, p.708).

 I will only enumerate some other steps taken by Kamal Pasha for
 secularising Turkey:

 He encouraged the wearing of European dress - he himself wore European
 suits and a hat.
 All monasteries and religious houses were abolished and their wealth
 confiscated for the State.
 Muslim religious schools were abolished and State non-religious
 schools were started.
 Sharia Law was replaced by Swiss Civil Code, the Italian Penal Code
 and German Commercial Code.
 Polygamy was abolished.
 A Society for the defence of women's right was established; purdah was
 abolished and women were persuaded to enter into the professions.
 Latin script replaced Arabic script.
 Turkish language was purged of Arabic and Persian words, partly
 because those words could not be written in Latin script.
 All this undoubtedly made Turkey a strong State compared to other
 Muslim nations. Some of the changes made have endured to this day.
 Turkey is even today a secular State. A woman wearing skirts, Ms.
 Chiller, had for some time been the Prime Minister of Turkey.

 But the secularism of Kamal Pasha was based upon dictatorship and was
 not brought about by discussion and persuasion - a course Nehru would
 have adopted. In the ordinary course, a system which has been imposed
 upon people with force would be overthrown by the people at some
 stage. But the secular state has survived for 60 years after Kamal
 Pasha's death. Of late, Islamic Fundamentalism is raising its head in
 Turkey but the Turks who have tasted the fruits of secular life are
 not accepting a course which may lead them to an Islamic State. It
 may, therefore, be regarded that the majority of Turks have accepted
 secularism. Despite a couple of coups, Turkey has now retained the
 democratic framework.

 Digressing slightly I wish to refer to another Muslim ruler. Some
 historians think that Akbar's was also a secular State. Akbar's
 confused religiosity has been equated with secularism by some
 historians. He received members of Jesuit Mission to find answers to
 his theological doubts. On the promptings of a flattering theologian,
 Akbar promulgated what has been described as "Infallibility Decree"
 under which the Emperor alone could with finality decide any question
 concerning the Muslim religion. Akbar also partly indulged in the
 rituals of as divergent religions as Zoraastrianism and Jainism. At
 one stage he propounded a new religion called Din-e-Ilahi (Faith of
 God) which by necessary implication rejected the claim of Mohamed
 being the seal of prophethood. By no stretch of imagination this could
 be called secularism. (See Oxford History of India by Vincent Smith,
 4th Edition, edited by Percival Spear, p.346 et seq.)

 S. Gopal rightly points out that his marriage with a Hindu Princess,
 partaking of "Gangajal" etc., showed, apart from his love of Hinduism,
 his anxiety to hold his empire together and to prevent his Hindu
 subjects from becoming restive. His "Sarvadharam Samabhav" made him
 worship Virgin Mary and other deities on different days according to
 rites of different religions - thus infuriating the followers of Islam
 which prohibited idol worship. (A Historical Perspective of Secularism
> in India by S. Gopal, pp.7 and 8, People's Reporter Publisher,
 Bangalore).


Position in UK


A brief reference to the position in England should be in order. In England there is a close alliance between the Church and the State. The Church of England became independent of the Pope in the Sixteenth Century and is the official Church of England. The Monarch of England is the head of the Church. Though there is religious freedom in England, the Church of England has a special status inasmuch as the monarch of England must join in communion with the Church of England. A Catholic or any one who marries a Catholic cannot be the monarch of England. It is probable that a Catholic may not even be Lord Chancellor.

 The Church of England by certain internal measures can constitute a
 General Synod consisting of clergy as well as laity and this assembly
 can put forth proposals regarding religious matters -such as
 communion, baptism etc. These proposals do not have the force of law
 unless the Parliament has approved them by a simple resolution and
 have received the Royal Assent thereafter. This is a simplified
 account of the relationship between the Church and the State in
 England. (For a detailed discussion, see 'Constitutional Law' by
 E.C.S. Wade and Godfrey Phillips). The Established Church in Scotland
 is the Presbyterian Church and the General Assembly of that Church is
 the supreme legislative and judicial body.

 The provisions touching the form of worship are of the authorship of
 the Church but become binding only under the authority of the
 Parliament, which may consist of Christians of any denomination,
 non-Christians and atheists. To this limited extent it can be said
 that there is no theocratic polity in England.


Constitution of India

 It is time we turn to the Constitution of India.

 Is the State envisaged under the Constitution a secular State ? Is
 there a wall of separation between the State and religions? Our
 twin-sister State - Pakistan - is an Islamic Republic. Pakistan's
 Constitution proclaims that sovereignty over the entire world belongs
 to Allah. No law which is repugnant to Holy Quran and other sacred
 books can be enacted by the State.

 It is contended by many that India is a secular State because:

 no particular religion is prescribed as the State religion;
 no preferential treatment is envisaged for any religion or for people
 professing any religion;
 the right to worship is given to followers of all religions.

 It is further stated that active or direct promotion or propagation of
 any religion by the State is not provided for in the Indian
 Constitution. But is it prohibited?

 Equality before law (Article 14), prohibition of discrimination on the
 ground of religion (Article 15) and equality of opportunity in public
 employment or for holding any public office (Article 16) are all
 healthy provisions indicating democratic and secular credentials of
 Indian polity.

 Let us now turn to other relevant provisions.

 Article 27 provides that "no person shall be compelled to pay any
 taxes, the proceeds of which are specifically appropriated in payment
 of expenses for the promotion or maintenance of any religion or
 religious denomination". (Emphasis provided)

 This Article is only a ban against the State from collecting taxes,
 part or whole of which could be utilised for the promotion of any
 religion. Two consequences follow from this. First, if there is no
 direct connection between a tax and the promotion of religion, the ban
 does not come into force. Amounts from the general exchequer can be
 appropriated for religious purposes. Secondly a tax may be levied for
 the religious and spiritual upliftment of the citizens and the
 proceeds can be utilised for the promotion of all religions - a la
 Akbar.

 This is good news for 'Sangha Pariwar'. Ram Temple can be constructed
 at Ayodhya, with, partly at least, the heap of funds from the State
 exchequer. Haj pilgrims' tours may be subsidised; contributions can be
> made to Waqf Boards; payment of stipends to Imams may be considered,
 as the Supreme Court itself has suggested. A secularist may only
 bemoan that there is no total prohibition against the use of State
 funds for religious purposes.

 Article 28(1) lays down that no religious instruction shall be
 provided in any educational institution wholly maintained out of State
 funds.

 It is well known that almost all educational institutions receive
 grants from the Government or a Governmental body like University
 Grants Commission. It is generally accepted that few schools, even
 religious schools, can survive without grants-in-aid. (See In Re
 Kerala Education Bill, AIR 1958 S.C.956 -980). These grants cover 100
 per cent of the salaries of the teaching staff and 90% of the salaries
 of the non-teaching staff. A small proportion of the expenses is met
 by other sources including tuition fees. Such institutions are not
 institutions wholly maintained, though largely maintained, out of
 State funds. The ban of Article 28(1) will not apply to such
 educational institutions. Elphinstone College is covered; St. Xavier's
 College is not.

 We have seen how under the secular Constitution of U.S.A. a
 State-aided school cannot impart religious education. Article 28(3)
 permits a State-recognised or a State-aided school to give religious
 instruction or to hold religious worship (Satyanarayan Puja) provided
 no student is compelled to attend the instruction or the worship.

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