*** Rajen: I spoke of what needs to be done, many times. If you
missed it, I don't know what I can say that will register.
All I could hear was to change the system.
Is that your solution?
Then it is not a solution at all.
Because you could not tell how to change the system, and what will be the
new system.
So back to square one.
Unless I missed something, I did not hear any solution other than
above.
Rajen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:36
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: Credibility Of
MoWR!!!
At 12:24 AM -0600 3/4/05, Barua25 wrote:
Chandan:
If we may ask you
back, what is your solution?
Or
none?
*** Rajen: I spoke of what needs to be done, many times. If you
missed it, I don't know what I can say that will register.
If 'None', then
that itself calls for you to shut up.
*** But I would shut up anyway, if it bothers the majority of Netters.
Why don't you take a poll, and if you a would all rather have me shut up, I
will be pleased to comply. Because I really don't enjoy causing distress to my
fellow men by talking about unpleasant truths they would just as soon not hear
about.
The only reason I continue to keep doing it is because I have this
feeling that even though my views annoy the most vocal of Assam Netters to no
end, there is a whole lot of others who might remain silent, but do like to
listen to what I have to say. But I realize I could be suffering from
delusions of grandeur. So you will do all a favor, if you can put an end to it
once and for all with a poll, even if it is only an unscientific one. I am not
looking for you to hire Gallup or Zogby.
Because we are
looking for solutions here.
*** I noticed Rajen. And I offered my views. You reject it as an
anti-Indian ploy. It is your turn to offer your solutions.
We all know the
problems.
If you are telling
the ppeople of Assam their problems, you are not telling them anything
new. They all know their problems.
*** Am I in an echo chamber here? Where did I hear those before?
You are sooo smart Rajen. Nice try, but doesn't fly :-).
Take care.
c
Rajen Barua,
Houston
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Anjan K.
Nath ; Barua25 ; [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: Credibility Of
MoWR!!!
Hi Anjan:
> If we are given the franchise to elect our legislators,
why are we content to >sit back and watch the non-performance of the
elected rather than take positive >steps to correct our initial
mistakes (of electing the wrong people).
*** I know you are younger than me, but still, you have seen
govts. come and govts. go in Assam and in India. Question is what positive
changes have you seen with the turnovers?
You tell me and I will shut the heck up :-).
All of you good folks, who speak glowingly of and never forget
to demonstrate to the world your fealty to and admiration of democracy as
manifested by 'elekshuns'. That is fine to show what good folks you are.No
doubt you are a few cuts above the not-so-good folks of Assam. But that is
not the point. I am not questioning your goodness. Question is how on
earth do the not-so-good folks folks of Assam who elect the non-performers
to govern them,accountable? And how on earth do the
better-than-the-Assam-folks, Indians hold their central govts.
accountable?
You guys show me something halfway realistic, I will join you
and Rajen and Ram
and all the other Indians and sing your praises. But I take a
very dim view of people who can't see what sits on their faces
:-).
Take care,
c
At 8:58 AM +0800 3/4/05, Anjan K. Nath wrote:
Rajen,
How very true. If we are given the franchise to elect
our legislators, why are we content to sit back and watch the
non-performance of the elected rather than take positive steps to
correct our initial mistakes (of electing the wrong
people).
As I have said a few times too, we should try and help our
people and NOT simply be arm-chair critics.
How would you like to join the North-East-India forum.
We have a lot more intersting and positive discussions going on.
Your contributions would definitely help.
Anjan
----- Original Message -----
From: Barua25
To: [email protected] ;
Chan Mahanta
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; D K Mishra
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 12:53
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: Credibility Of
MoWR!!!
Chandan:
I see Chandan Mahanta, a
NRA, shouting in the net and trying to make GOI
accountable.
What we need is the people of
Assam to hold both GOA and GOI accountable for their lapses and not to
let them go.
That is what Ram and I have been
shouting for in the net.
Are you willing to join us in
trying to help people of Assam do that?
That is why I asked you in my
last mail, what point you are trying to make by blaming the
system.
We have 2
options.
We can shout and try to make
point
or
We can try to help people of
Assam.
I am for the
later.
Rajen
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; D K Mishra
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:26
AM
Subject: [Assam] Re: Credibility Of
MoWR!!!
For those who might be interested in holding their
governments accountable.
cm
At 12:14 AM +0600 3/3/05, D K Mishra wrote:
The data about irigation in
different states , as provided by MoWR are
fake and misleading.
I can say this on the authority of data supplied by
WRD of
Govt. of Bihar. The annual reports of GoB suggets
that,
Major
irrigation projects in the state (with
command areas in excess of 10,000
hectares) include the Kosi
and Gandak in North Bihar, and the Sone canal
network in South
Bihar. There are a number of medium-sized schemes,
defined as
those with commands between 2,000 and 10,000 hectares,
and
hundreds of minor irrigation projects. However, as of 2003,
irrigation
potential (area connected to the irrigation network)
was only 2.8
million hectares and the area actually receiving
water from the
networks
was limited to 1.6 million
hectares.
Scrutiny of records show that
both irrigation
potential and actual irrigation (area receiving
water)
increased in the state until 1990 when it attained its
peak of 2.148
million hectares after which actual irrigation
saw a steady decline even
as potential irrigation continued to
rise. Between 1990 and 2000 (when
the state was bifurcated into
Bihar and Jharkhand), there was additional
potential irrigation
of 113,000 hectares but actual irrigation fell by
653,000
hectares. The area irrigated by surface networks has
stabilized
around 1.6 million hectares for the past ten years.
Considering that
404,000 hectares was under irrigation in Bihar
at the time of
Independence in August 1947, the increase in
actual irrigation of 1.2
million acres over the past 56 years
is not a noteworthy achievement. At
that rate of
average
growth of actual irrigation, it will take
about
230 years to achieve the irrigation targets and if we
only consider the
growth rate in the past 15 years of misrule
in Bihar, the targets would
never ever be achieved since the
growth has been negative. One can only
extrapolate as to when
the irrigation department of the state would
cease to
function.
According to the water resources department
(Minor
Irrigation), irrigation potential of 222,000 hectares
had been created
by 2000 of which 84,800 hectares is through
surface irrigation schemes
and 132,200 hectares is by lift
irrigation and energized rural pump
sets. However, reports
indicate that the surface irrigation schemes have
not operated
at more than 60 per cent efficiency while the lift
irrigation
schemes operate at a maximum efficiency of 10 per cent.
Ageing
machines, erratic electricity supply, incompetent management
and
indifference of users are stated to be the causes of
underutilization of
these facilities.
There were a total
of 2,316 Lift Irrigation
Schemes in the state of which 679
are defunct because of electrical
problems, 104 do not function
because of mechanical problems, and 826
schemes suffer from a
combination of both these defects. Another 221
schemes have
fallen into disuse because of the shifting of the river
course
away from the sump well or due to sand-casting (intake covered
by
sand). Thus, only 482 schemes, or less that 21 per
cent are
operational.
There are 5,558 State Tube Wells
(STW) in the state with
a command area of 307,000 hectares. Of
these, only 5,122 have received
electrical power. In the case
of STWs, too, the operation record is poor
- 2,886 sets are
inoperative because of electrical faults, 85 because
of
mechanical trouble, and 302 because of defects in the
power supply
transformers. As a result, according to the annual
report of the Minor
Irrigation Dept, against a potential of
112,000 hectares, State Tube
Wells irrigated only 19,468
hectares of land in 1999-2000.
Bihar (now
Jharkhand)
Hill Area Lift Irrigation Corporation (JHALCO) established
in
1975 under Tribal Sub-Plan commissioned 394 Lift Irrigation
Schemes in
the tribal areas of Jharkhand. According to reports,
284 of these
schemes are no longer functioning. Not
surprisingly, if the rains are
delayed by only a week the state
faces drought.
Actually, both the
data, whether it is
given by Delhi or by Patna are fake if the farmers
are to be
believed. They do not trust the irrigation establishment
and
most of agriculture is based on their own enerprize. The
Irrigation
Department claims all the development to its
credit.
I am sure, the
situation in other states too,
may not be as rosy as presented to be.
There is a need to
strengthen the counter-research to blast the bogus
claims made
by the irrigation bureucracy.
Dinesh
Mishra
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