C-da,
 
At IITs there is lot of hangup about caste bias - esp raised about IIT Madras recently by a group of Dalit students. Further in appointments of the directors of IITs some times the ministers do play a role -like Joshi tried at IIMs. I think my habit of questioning all issues will not go away so easily-though I may not air my views  -since I happen to be a minority here (as long as I am here)- religious,  racial etc.
 
Umesh


Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:

There is nothing wrong in being questioning. It is very important to be critical. But those are not the same thing as being paranoid about religious
intolerance in the USA.I have never heard of any such things in my 35 years
here.

I don't know anything about Rajasthan or Jaipur, but even in Assam or in institutions like the IITs it was not an issue, even way back in the 60s. So it is quite surprising that you carry such baggages of religious hang-ups in this day and age, and at Harvard of all places.

c-da







At 10:25 PM +0100 4/25/05, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
 
I think it may be because of the cut throat environment I have witnessed before I came here that my habit of questioning has remianed- not that I have found anything fishy here - but I find the practice useful to avoid hidden pitfalls.
 
At school -I felt- that I was targetted by a certain group of staff members - which put me on a continuous track of job rotation- which I tried to make useful by learning everything in the business. I felt like"The Last Emperor" -the movie- the teenaged emperor of China who was manipulated by many to suit their ends. However, I feel my practice of questioning every motive has helped bring me to Harvard. I even madethe dates for my GRE tests or visa interview lest that group createsome ruckus (which generally happened) and I might be stopped from taking leave to go to Allahabad or Delhi for the task. Maybe it was all a figment of my imagination - but somehow that bias helped my family's break-up.
 
 Seeing the movie "Alexander the Great" - the older version brought my family's memory alive some days ago. How King Philps concubine takes over from Alexander's mother and gets her thrown out and plots to get her son declared thecrown prince - cutting Alexander out. Somehow, this Ihave seen in real life - though Ineverdesire violence - as what happened thanks to Alexander's mother's initiatives - soIseek a new lifehere - outside that battle field.
 
I believe Bill Gates or was it Apple's jobs -who said - "Only the paranoid survive."
 
In my job search I am using that logic still. I see no harm in that.
 
Umesh

umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
C-da,
 
Thanks for the advice but I believe in free thought, so I pondered why some people are more desparately against him and not others (like the girl for example who treated his views much more mildly than many others here).
 
Umesh

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Umesh:

It is about time that you shed your religious hang-ups and attempts at explaining things based on half-baked and uninformed presumptions . It is not going to take you far, but bog you down in your pursuits of higher education in the US.



c-da















At 9:26 PM +0100 4/25/05, umesh sharma wrote:
Hi,

 
While discussing our Univ President's (or CEO)  latest escapades in the press about confusing the issue about Native American's miseries after the Europeans came and how their imported diseases killed much more than physical violence by the immigrants. The Native MAerians neither had the medicines nor immunity to small pox etc and died in entire clans -esp in Mexico - I saw a video on that.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25575-2005Mar10.html
 Infact I too had got the impression initially after reading the pieces that Summers was saying that disease kills more than wars - which is no argument for causing violence.   We also discussed his surname (Summers) with another one I had recently heard Sumner - a Jewish colleague of mine surprised me. She said that he wasn't Christian and agreed that he speaks without thinking. "Foot in the mouth" is the term she used and wondered whether he liked the "taste of shoe leather in his mouth."

 
Economists are known to be trouble makers - take Karl Marx for example -- not as pacifiers. So perhaps Summers is following his colleagues example.

However, even given his habit of goofing up his words - and taking on Gates Jr -an African American professor whose PBS documentary blamed NOT Whites but the Africans themselves and their muslim leaders for selling them and how in Mozambique etc the Church was now constructing churches at the places where "His ancestors" were sold. Never mind that the missionaries had helped enslavement of Africa thru colonization also.

 
So it seems that the case against Summers was not just against his goofings - which are self evident and pardonable but perhaps because he was a Jewish President of a university which was originally a college for Christain priests. Perhaps many orthodox people didn't like it. His "economic behavior" didn't help much either though.

 
Any comments.

 
Umesh 
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