At 11:36 AM -0700 6/2/05, pranab saloi wrote:
Dear Mr Mahanta
I am really amazed how you get so much of time to
write so much crap in so many mails of yours and that
too in a single day????!!!!!!!
*** Amazing, ain't I? I can explain, but it will cost you. I
don't like to give out my secrets for free.
Hey are you working or
just got your PC to mail all these crap????
*** What is work? Remember I am a Kharkhowa?
BTW, what is a PC and what is crap?
Please
spare me. I have requested nth no. of time to get me
out of this most stupid site. I dont know what struck
me that I got myself into this mess.
*** I think you are in serious trouble. Sounds to me like a
crashed brain.I know a 'goru-daktor' who can re-build it or
implant a new one. Let me know if you need his contact
info.
See, I am
serious, I inbox is always full with all kind of
non-sence mails from this ASSAM site.
*** Yeah, I can see that. Actually not just your in-box that is
full of it, if you know what I mean.
Please get me
out or else you will keep hearing or getting such
mails from you.
*** That is scary. But I can always send a report to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. (OrgID: IANA
Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City: Marina del Rey
StateProv: CA
PostalCode:
90292-6695
Country: US
)
Should I?
So decide for yourself what you want.
Just spare 2 min for this request of mine and stop
sending those crap. Next time I dont want to see your
name in my inbox. OK?
*** Oooh, sounds like you are mad at me or something. Are you?
Why?
It is not something to do with the brain trouble, is it?
cm
PS to Assam Netters: BTW, this only one of Saloi's many
irate notes to me spanning several years. I am forwarding a few for
Netters' entertainment.
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Mridul:
>
>
> How can you separate the 'budhijibi's from the
> 'rural people'?
>
> *** You have to remain contextual. Under the
> context of the issue under discussion, the
> difference is clear: The 'buddhijibi' can indulge
> in 'gafiloti', dereliction of duty, and still be
> assured of an income, guaranteed by a system that
> expects little or nothing and has no
> accountability. But the rural 'shromjibi' peasant
> has no such luxury. If his meager crop fails, if
> his rice is attacked by 'dhan pwk', if the
> monsoons came too late, he is doomed. He does not
> get a welfare ( dole) check from the govt. His
> salary does not have a dearness allowance. He has
> only his 'work culture' to depend on.
>
> Why do we need a system of accountability? Aren't
> the need of 'developing a work culture' and
> 'shaping the future of the younger generation'
> reason enough for ethical behaviour by the school
> teachers and college teachers?
>
> *** If it is good enough reason, which I would
> agree it is,why then is it absent? And if it is
> absent, what are you going to about it? Are you
> going to sigh and go back to sleep, or as a
> concerned citizen, would want to know why it is
> so, and want to make sure it is turned around?
> And if it is the latter, how are you going to,
> enforce it, make it stick?
>
> I will forward you an Assam Net note I posted
> years back on this issue, if I can find it in my
> hard disk.
>
>
> Chanda, don't you think the scenario has changed?
> What you are talking about was about the earlier
> generations. Now, even if the monsoon is not
> delayed, they can't complete the 'bhuin rua' till
> 'Bhadra' (Bhado) instead of 'Shravana'. Further,
> until & unless you adopt modern agricultural
> methods, farming does involve real hard work.
> Only because of the hard works, the earlier
> generations had a more or less smooth & better
> living standards.
>
>
> *** Mridul, you speak like a true 'nogoria lora'
> full of good will, but ignorant of the realities
> of life and naive. But you are not alone. I find
> it frustrating, but not unexpected. Once I wrote
> to Alpana, a very conscientious person and full
> of sympathy for the less fortunate amongst us;
> that so many of us are unaware of the fact that
> there is a whole different Assam that lies beyond
> and that all these fine, well meaning urban
> Assamese have not a clue about. It could well be
> a distant and foreign country to them.
>
> Of course modern agricultural methods are needed.
> Do you think people don't know that? But those
> implements, the tools, don't fall from the sky.
> You cannot raise a Japanese tiller from your
> milk-cow's offsprings, with tender loving care.
> It requires huge amounts of hard cash. Where
> would that come from Mridul? The peasant cannot
> extort that from would be school teacher
> applicants with Rs 50-,000 a shot. He has little
> cash crop. Lack of cash, lack of buying power, is
> one of the biggest impediments to rural economy.
> People can survive with subsisatence farming, but
> they have little buying power. Do you not know
> that people still die in the backwoods of Assam
> because they cannot afford to go see a doctor, or
> have no money to pay for anti-biotics?
>
> How many people in the village now can make
> 'khorahi', 'Passi', 'Bisoni'? Is 'burha tamul' is
> available in the villages ?
>
> *** Guess how much time it takes to make a
> basket, and how much as a buyer you would be
> paying to the rural basket maker ( not to the
> Delhi shop--they would make out like bandits) for
> one? Have you ever made a basket Mridul? Have you
> seen one being made? If you want to know more
> about it, let me know, I will be pleased to spend
> an hour to educate you. I know all about it,
> because I have done it. It is all about time
> spent and reimbursements received for it. Still
> rural folks woukld makje it for their own use, or
> when there is not much to do, will make a few to
> take it to the 'haat', to sell for at most, five
> to six rupees a piece, even in today's
> environment.
>
> Can you find 'leteku', 'poniol', 'kon bilahi',
> 'gul nemu' in the villages now? How much labour
> is required to grow them?
>
> *** There is no market for it Mridul, except
> maybe as novelty items in far off urban markets,
> where some one like yourself may buy it once at
> exorbitant prices, so you could tell your
> children about what they are, how abundant they
> were in rural Assam once, how they are now gone,
> thanks to the absence of a work culture among
> your fellow men. It might be good a way to relive
> romantic notions of a bygone era, but it has
> nothing to do with the survival of the folks you
> think are devoid of a work ethic.
>
> BTW, I can tell you all you ever wanted to know
> about each of these items: leteku, poniol,
> kon-bilahi ( I grow four different varieties of
> them here in my vegetable garden) , gwl-nemu ( I
> have two ten foot tall trees and a four foot one,
> all producing thruout the year). I told my
> village neighbor about my nemu-tenga trees, two
> over twelve years old. He, himself a successful
> farmer, was stunned. He said, how could that be?
> Our nemu tres die in four to five years, he
> exclaimed. I knew already why: Fungus! 'Kerwn'.
> He has no remedy for it.
>
> Do you?
>
>
> Regarding working conditions, even in other parts
> of the country, the working condition of the
> farmers are similar.
>
> If you are as superficially aware of Assam
> conditions as you demonstrate, how can you say
> that with such certainty about other parts? And
> even if you could, how does that prove anything?
> I also know that in other parts things are
> actually much worse--farmers commit suicide out
> of desperation by the hundreds, every year. As an
> educated and enlightened person can you compare
> their different circumstances and judge them as
> if they are all the same?
>
> I would not.
>
>
> Comparing the conditions in which you are living
> now to the conditions of our brothers in villages
> will not serve any purpose except sympathising
> with them. The truth is that this is india.
>
>
> *** Why should I NOT sympathize with them Mridul?
> Particularly when I am as aware of their
> conditions as I am?
>
> And what does "This is India " mean? That to be
> an Indian one has to throw our sensitivities
> away, our discard our humanity? No way Mridul.
> I am not that kind of an Oxomiya.
>
>
> Further, I believe that being self-critical only
> helps you to improve. If you take it
> sentimentally, it'll definitely result in loss of
> self-assurance.
>
>
>
> *** Introspection is good. But your or Rajen's
> judging rural Oxomiyas on their purported work
> ethic, based upon ignorant notions is NOT
> introspection. There are far less flattering
> terms for it :-).
>
> I am no sentimentalist. I have no use for it. In
> fact I am a hard as nails realist. And that is
> why I take issue with such assertions as
> labeling of a whole people negatively based
> purely on ignorant perceptions :-).
>
>
> >I also want to reassure you that even if I am
> >critical about my fellow brothers and sisters in
> >villages in the Assam net, I always take pride
> >about their character, while discussing the same
> >with our colleagues from other states. I am
> >proud to be an assamese and belonging to a rural
> >back ground.
>
>
> *** I know that very well Mridul. Not just you,
> Rajen too comes from the same perspective. And so
> are the others who indulge in this. But as I
> explained to Ram, it is exactly like ignorant
> parents treating their children abusively
>
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