On 19 Sep 2009 at 12:22, Scott Haneda wrote:

> On Sep 19, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> 
> > ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]>
> > schreibt:
> >> I am running the dnsstuff anti spam test
> >
> >
> > I did run it myself.
> >
> > First let me state, that it is ok with us, that such a test is not
> > blocked as Spam  firsttime.
> > ASSP does not claim to catch all spams 100 % without any help.
> > Actually this is NOT Spam - so we are quite proud, that ASSP sees it
> > as HAM.
> > After I reported the mail to the spam-report address, it was caught.
> >
> > The "invalid" Received header illustrates quite fine, why we do not
> do
> > this checking.
> >
> > Received: from gold.dnsstuff.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> >     by gold.dnsstuff.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9AC65C033
> >     for <[email protected]>; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:12:57 +0000 (UTC)
> 
> I do not understand DNSstuff's statement that this is a forged header, 
> let alone how any mail server would be able to determine that it is.   
> It is not even a very good test, as it only tries once, which means,  
> it will get stuck in a greylist as well.  If I send back a "try again  
> later" message, is should try again later, which it is not.
> 
> What about that header in any way, human or automated, could be  
> detected as forged?  They have a hostname, and that even resolves to  
> an IP that has a PTR that is the same hostname.  Seems a quite  
> legitimate sender to me.

This came up previously on this list (26 Aug).  
I think the 'forged' header is this one that 
Fritz quoted:

>Received: from forgedsnd.example.com 
([127.0.0.2]) by
>forgedrcv.example.com
> with fakesvc; Sun,  6 Sep 2009 17:56:44

which is probably meant to give a positive 
result from some DNSBL lists if you check IP 
addresses in the received headers (127.0.0.2 
is used by some as a test IP that always 
returns a 'hit').

The dnsstuff test is not very good.

paul


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