Fine, I'll play along. Will you check say 50 of
your regular senders'
ips at rfc-ignorant.org and tell me how
many come up breaking a RFC
requirement? Whole ISP's are listed
there for instance for having bad
whois, non-working abuse etc.
etc. If you start playing by those rules
you'll end up an
anti-spam kook blocking half the world...
I'm not saying you shouldn't be practical with these rules.
"ASSP is all about invalidating mail because of incompliance of
RFC" - where does ASSP claim that aim? link please Why does it need to be
explicitly stated? It's quite obvious
to me, apparently not to you. Besides that..., it's not an aim, the RFC's
are merely a means to differentiate. Spammers prefer to be anonymous and
have to break RFC-rules to achieve that. Furthermore they are only
interested in getting as much mail out. They are only putting for instance a
message-id in because they are otherwise more likely refused.
> Finally, can you please give a proper RFC
quote saying what mail servers are required to accept or reject?
I already gave one at the beginning of this thread.
> AFAIK the receiving system has the right to decide for
themselves what to accept or block, i.e. I can block your e-mail just
because I don't like your name, or I can accept e-mail forging helo's if
that's my wish and I wouldn't be breaking any RFC's. The senders might, but
that's not my business.
Of course you can and
the same goes for governmental laws.
As I said before..
It's all about deciding what's spam and what's not. Non-RFC compliant mail
is just a good indication for spam. Common sense should not be discarded
here.
But this is all getting out of hand. I merely want to see in my log what's
going on and if a server which has been handling mail for more than 7 years
for >800 toplevel domains doesn't want to receive one specific mail I'm not
going reconfigure anything.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Frunza
<ad...@ascomex.ro>
To: ASSP development mailing list
<assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009
15:58:12 +0300
Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Bare LF's rejected by Qmail
but undetected by ASSP
Mysoginistic some?
Fine, I'll play along. Will you check say 50 of your regular senders'
ips at rfc-ignorant.org and tell me how many come up breaking a RFC
requirement? Whole ISP's are listed there for instance for having
bad
whois, non-working abuse etc. etc. If you start playing by
those rules
you'll end up an anti-spam kook blocking half the
world...
"ASSP is all about invalidating mail because
of incompliance of RFC" - where does ASSP claim that aim? link please
Finally, can you please give a proper RFC quote saying
what mail servers are required to accept or reject? AFAIK the receiving
system has the right to decide for themselves what to accept or block, i.e.
I can block your e-mail just because I don't like your name, or I can accept
e-mail forging helo's if that's my wish and I wouldn't be breaking any
RFC's. The senders might, but that's not my business.
On 10/19/2009 3:38 PM, Jean-Pierre van Melis
wrote:
> ASSP is all about invalidating mail because of
incompliance of RFC and even
> goes further than this. It's
just because this specific incompliance is not
> realistic it
should just be discarded.
> non-RFC-compliance is indeed a
valid reason to invalidate a message..
>
>
Reversing this logic into "An RFC-compliance should result in validating a
> message" is IMHO female logic..
>
> JP
>
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