>First, has the functionality been fixed in this version so that with
>NotgreeyWhitelist set to 0, a whitelisted FROM address in the header
>will consider a message to be whitelisted?  This definitely wasn't
>working with .09.

No this is/was not the case! But how ever, if a redlisted address was 
found the feature was disabled without a hint!


>I'm obviously not understanding the logic

A message gets white only if all found addresses are already whitelisted.

"If set to 'check all addresses - all matches for white - add all',
all defined addresses in all of these fields have to match to get
white and all addresses will be added to or updated in whitelist."

should be better 

"If set to 'check all addresses - all matches for white - update all',
all defined addresses in all defined fields must be already whitelisted 
for a message to get a
whitelisted state and all addresses will updated in whitelist."


Thomas





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I've looked at 2.0.1 rc 0.5.10 and the new explanation of
NotGreedyWhitelist.   I'd like some clarification.  Once I understand
it better, I'll help to write up a clearer explanation for all.

First, has the functionality been fixed in this version so that with
NotgreeyWhitelist set to 0, a whitelisted FROM address in the header
will consider a message to be whitelisted?  This definitely wasn't
working with .09.

Before this version, this was either on or off.  Off was the "normal
operation" and when it worked (which wasn't the case with .09 and
various versions before that) if the mail-from or from, sender,
reply-to, etc

So now, 0 is the default, and operates the same as the old default and
1 is the same as having this checked before right?

It the new option (2) that I'm confused about:
"If set to 'check all addresses - all matches for white - add all',
all defined addresses in all of these fields have to match to get
white and all addresses will be added to or updated in whitelist."

It doesn't make sense to me that all have to match the whitelist in
order for them to be whitelisted - they're already all on the
whitelist.  I'm obviously not understanding the logic or I'm not
understanding the explanation.

While we're on this topic, might it be useful to have an option to
allow an address that is whitelisted already that appears in the
sender lines (from, reply-to, list-from, etc) in the message headers
to allow a message through WITHOUT adding the other addresses to the
whitelist?  This would let us whitelist the from: address of a mailing
list, without worrying about getting every crazy unique mail from and
reply to in the whitelist.

I don't think there's any point in having one time addresses like:
bounce-4vj3kjnvkjns43872.32344vlijnnsjknss552.5872...@whateverlist.com
go to the whitelist.  These are usually one time use addresses that
identify the individual message that was sent.  It's really the the
it's the from adress or list-from address in the header
[email protected]
that's matching the whitelist, and that's what we care about.

What I'd like to see, or at lease discuss, is having 2 options to
replace the current NotGreedyWhitelist:

1) ConsiderMessageWhitelistedIf.  This determines which address types
allow a message to be considered whitelisted.   This doesn't set which
addresses will subsquently be whitelisted, just if the message whould
be considered to be from a whitelisted address in the first place.
Options could be:
0: mail-from matches
1: mail-from or any of the the sender headers like from: reply-to:
list-from: etc (if any one can match)
2: mail-from AND any of the sender headers (all must match - seems
awefully strict to me due to the varying unique one time use from
addresses)


2) AddOtherFromAddressesToWhitelist  If a message is considered
whitelisted, determined by the settings in 1 above, should we add the
other sender addresses to the whitelist.  options are Yes or No.

If set to no, then if a message is whitelisted because the from:
address of [email protected] is already whitelisted, then the
message will be considered whitelisted from #1 above.  BUT the one
time unique [email protected] wouldn't get added to the
whitelist.  I think this makes a lot of sense, but would like the
experts' opinions.

I believe that this would still let other recipient addresses (TO and
CC) be automatically whitelisted (as long as they are not a local
address or redlisted).  I thought there used to be an option to turn
this on or off, but i can't find it.  on is fine with me.

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