>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>No - this is a professional version !

I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but how are we supposed
to have known, short of looking at the code, what that norm number
means?

I don't mean to argue, just discuss.  I'll write the code and provide
it here, if you don't want to use it, that's fine (always) - no hard
feelings.

You seem to agree with me at least in part - if there's a problem with
the norm, you already give a great pointer like this:

Corpus norm:    0.1074
Corpus norm should be between 0.6 and 1.4

Recommendation: You need more spam messages in the corpus.

I'm just saying that if it is 0.67 that we should have
corpus norm: 0.6700 (sightly ham heavy)

You're already putting things in each and every rebuild log like:

Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: Enabled
**Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!**

I'm not sure why you'd feel that this 2 line reminder is needed in
every log, but a good reminder of what the corpus norm number means
(which is very important IMHO) isn't a good idea.


On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>
> No - this is a professional version !
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> K Post <[email protected]>
> 08.11.2009 16:16
> Bitte antworten an
> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]>
>
>
> An
> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]>
> Kopie
>
> Thema
> Re: [Assp-test] fixes and changes in 2.0.1_RC0.5.16
>
>
>
>
>
>
> First, holy cow!  Thanks for all of those changes in 2.0.1 rc 0.5.16.
>
> 1) Whitelisting emails are now working.  That's huge.
>
> 2) I found the issue with the embedded analyze info in the ham/spam
> reports.  If "Spam and Ham Reports will trigger an additional Analyze
> Report (DoAdditionalAnalyze)" is set to send a report, doesn't matter
> to whom, then a report is generated AND in the ham/spam reply there's
> an analysis too.  This is true in 0.5.16.
>
> Like this:
>
> Thank you for your not-spam report.
> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future.
>
>
> Subject: The message subject
> Feature Matching:
>
> Whitelist: '[email protected]'
>
> Bayesian Analysis:
> Bad Words:Bad Prob                                               Good
> Words:Good Prob
>
> Totals:
>
>
> Spam/Ham Probabilities:
>
>
> Spam Probability:
>  probability 0.5000
>
>
> If I set DoAdditionalAnalyze to none, then this report doesn't appear
> in the reply.  I want a report to go to the sender and an analyze to
> me, but i don't want the analyze in the user reply.
>
>
> 3) On occasion, it appears that there are duplicate whitelist status
> lines like this:
>
> [email protected] is not on Whitelist
> [email protected] is not on Whitelist
>
> In this example original email that address was the to and reply-to.
>
>
> 4) While we're on this topic, I think it would be better if in the
> ham/spam report replies if we changed it so the original subject
> appears in parentethis.  So instead of
> Spam Report Received Original Subject
> it would be
> Spam Report Received (Original Subject)
>
> It's just easier to read that way.  "Spam Report Received" is what we
> have the subject configured as fyi.
>
>
> 5) Last, with Outlook 2007, with the report emails (and other emails
> from ASSP, like rebuild reports), I'm getting "Extra line breaks in
> this message were removed."  In #3 above, those two whitelist report
> lines were actually on the same line.  The message that we put for
> not-spam reports:
>
> Thank you for your not-spam report.
> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future.
>
> which is on 2 lines in the editor (lines 2 and 3, with 1 being the
> subject), shows as one line.
>
> In the rebuild reports most lines start on their own line, but those
> that are supposed printed on 2 lines like
> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: Enabled
> **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!**
>
> Which appears on 2 lines in the admin editor, but as
>
> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address:
> Enabled **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the
> corpus!**
>
> in outlook 2007.
>
>
> (ok, one more thing, unrelated)  in the rebuild log, it would be nice
> when printing the corpus norm, if we indicated that, 1 is perfect,
> less indicates that the corpus is ham heavy, more indicates that the
> corpus is spam heavy.  between .6 and 1.4 is an acceptable range.  How
> about doing something like:
>
> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          1.1248 (slightly spam heavy)
> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          0.9000 (slightly ham heavy)
> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          0.0548 (very ham heavy)  - and
> print
> the existing warning
> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          1.9548 (very spam heavy)  - and
> print
> the existing warning
>
> I may actually have the ham/spam ratio backwards, which emphasises my
> point.  Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>
> Thanks for keeping these revisions coming out so frequently and for
> implementing so many of my suggestions.  ASSP just keeps getting
> better and better.
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