Thank you (both you and Thomas) for the explanation. I appreciate it. ...Tim
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mathbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:05 PM To: ASSP development mailing list Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Whitelisting not working? Tim, Normally, yes. But those setting override. Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-687-3300 Toll Free: 1-877-MATHBOX (1-877-628-4269) On 10/8/2013 6:49 PM, Tim Evans wrote: > They were checked and I've unchecked them now. But I think you and Thomas > misunderstand my question. The message was blocked because of a high score. > The reason for the high score does not matter for my question and I > understand why this message scored high. My question is shouldn't > whitelisting override a high message score, regardless of why the message > scored high? If those boxes were checked, wouldn't that just have the > IPinHelo and IP in HELO does not match IP in connection scored because > IPinHelo is set to score, not block and I don't see any option to change > whether IPinHelo matches IP in connection to block or score - it seems that > it only scores and can not be configured to block. > > ...Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mathbox.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 2:33 PM > To: ASSP development mailing list > Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Whitelisting not working? > > Tim, > > At the bottom of Validate HELO section, see: > > Do Valid/Invalid/Black Helo for Whitelisted (DoHeloWL) > Do Valid/Invalid/Black Helo for Noprocessing (DoHeloNP) > > Ensure they are not checked. > > Michael Thomas > Mathbox > 978-687-3300 > Toll Free: 1-877-MATHBOX (1-877-628-4269) > > On 10/8/2013 3:44 PM, Tim Evans wrote: >> Sorry if I'm being dense, but if the message was blocked by high message >> score, I thought that whitelisting would override that and let it thru? Do I >> misunderstand something? >> >> I've read the helo section. I don't see anything there addresses the >> condition: IP in HELO does not match IP in connection, which is what seems >> to be the problem here. Thank you for pointing our fiphmValencePB. I did not >> see that anywhere in the helo section. >> >> ...Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thomas Eckardt [mailto:thomas.ecka...@thockar.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:58 AM >> To: ASSP development mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Whitelisting not working? >> >>> that this message was blocked due to high message score >> Yes. >> >>> will that always block or can it be set to score >> it only scores - the log shows it >> >> So every thing could be read in the log >> >> reduce fiphmValencePB >> >> or exclude the IP from the helo checks >> or ... >> or ... >> or SIMPLY READ the helo section >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> Von: Tim Evans <tev...@sparling.com> >> An: ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>, >> Datum: 08.10.2013 20:34 >> Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Whitelisting not working? >> >> >> >> I realize that the sender's mailserver is doing bad thing and I've already >> pointed it out to him, but I'm not sure that he will fix it. >> Unfortunately, the sender is a legitimate sender and not spam. I don't >> want to undo the checking on validate Helo, because it does catch a lot of >> bad stuff. I have DoIPinHelo set to score. I don't see any setting for IP >> in HELO does not match IP in connection - will that always block or can it >> be set to score? My concern is that this message was blocked due to high >> message score, so I am afraid that that other message scores (regex or >> Bayesian) will get blocked. >> >> ...Tim >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thomas Eckardt [mailto:thomas.ecka...@thockar.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:57 AM >> To: ASSP development mailing list >> Subject: [Assp-test] Antwort: Whitelisting not working? >> >> GUI->section Validate Helo_> read->read->read -> configure! >> any more questions -> ask >> >> the best solution is to contact the senders admin and to tell him that his >> >> mail system is doing wrong things >> >> 1. a real mail server never uses an IP in the HELO - this is not an issue >> in terms of RFC -> score is 39 (which is OK) >> 2. here - an IP is used in HELO and it does not match the connected IP , >> which indicates 1000% SPAM >> >> >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> >> Von: Tim Evans <tev...@sparling.com> >> An: "assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net" >> <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>, >> Datum: 08.10.2013 18:49 >> Betreff: [Assp-test] Whitelisting not working? >> >> >> >> Hi, >> I'm running ASSP version 2.3.3(13276) on perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 >> >> on Windows Server 2008R2. I'm getting mail blocked from whitelisted >> senders. Here is the log: >> >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> info: found message size announcement: >> 14.18 kByte >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> Message-Score: added 39 (fiphValencePB) >> for Suspicious HELO - contains IP: 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net', >> total score for this message is now 39 >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> [scoring] (Suspicious HELO - contains >> IP: 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net') >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> Message-Score: added 60 (fiphmValencePB) >> >> for IP in HELO 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net' does not match IP in >> connection '70.168.48.18' , total score for this message is now 99 >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> [scoring] (IP in HELO >> 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net' does not match IP in connection >> '70.168.48.18' ) >> Oct-08-13 08:57:24 47844-07354 [Worker_1] [MessageLimit] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> to: recipi...@sparling.com [spam found] >> (MessageScore 99, limit 50) [FW Southland Electric inc] -> >> c:/assp/spam/7354.eml; >> Oct-08-13 08:57:25 47844-07354 [Worker_1] 70.168.48.18 >> <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> to: recipi...@sparling.com [SMTP Error] >> 554 5.7.1 Mail appears to be unsolicited -- send error reports to >> thisisnts...@sparling.com >> >> Here is the email header: >> From: Sender <sen...@southlandelectricinc.com> >> To: "recipi...@sparling.com" <recipi...@sparling.com> >> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:57:15 -0700 >> Subject: [MessageLimit] FW: Southland Electric inc. >> Thread-Topic: Southland Electric inc. >> Thread-Index: Ac7Daqhqwuknor9fSHO+nfpu3GXcWAA1ENGA >> Message-ID: >> <F96D8FE3B006DF4997D1A433B118B35F1AB0AF2D88@SERVEREXCH.southland.local> >> Accept-Language: en-US >> Content-Language: en-US >> X-MS-Has-Attach: >> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >> x-vipre-scanned: 051BF8CA0056B0051BFA17 >> acceptlanguage: en-US >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="_000_F96D8FE3B006DF4997D1A433B118B35F1AB0AF2D88SERVEREXCHsou_" >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> X-Assp-Version: 2.3.3(13276) on Sparling.ASSP >> X-Assp-ID: Sparling.ASSP 47844-07354 >> X-Assp-Session: 5BD67B0C (mail 1) >> X-Assp-Envelope-From: sen...@southlandelectricinc.com >> X-Assp-Message-Score: 39 (Suspicious HELO - contains IP: >> 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net') >> X-Assp-IP-Score: 39 (Suspicious HELO - contains IP: >> 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net') >> X-Assp-Message-Score: 60 (IP in HELO 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net' >> does >> not match IP in connection '70.168.48.18' ) >> X-Assp-IP-Score: 60 (IP in HELO 'wsip-70-168-48-17.sd.sd.cox.net' does not >> match IP in connection '70.168.48.18' ) >> X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 8 Oct 2013 08:57:24 -0700 >> X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes (whitelistdb) >> X-Assp-Tag: MessageLimit >> X-Assp-allLoveATSpam: 2 >> X-Assp-Spam: YES >> X-ASSPSpam-Status: yes >> X-Assp-Spam-Reason: MessageScore 99, limit 50 >> X-Assp-Message-Totalscore: 99 >> X-Assp-Spam-Level: ******************** >> X-Assp-Intended-For: recipi...@sparling.com >> X-Assp-Copy-Spam: Yes >> Return-Path: sen...@southlandelectricinc.com >> X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: colmbx01.corp.sparling.com >> X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous >> >> The header notes that the sender is in the whitelist, but the log makes no >> >> mention of it. 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