And here's another, also from a delta.com address, this time them sending (legitimate) boarding passes.
Came from IP 153.69.214.203 querying 203.214.69.153.query.senderbase.org (yes I reversed it) returns 0-0=1|1=NCR CORPORATION|2=6.2|3=6.2|6=0|7=2|8=3410716|9=4530|20= csmail03.ncrwebhost.com|22=Y|40=4.6|41=4.5|43=4 .4|44=12.2|45=N|46=11|48=24|50=Duluth|51=GA|52=30096|53=US|54=-84.1494|55=33.9791 parameter 20 shows the hostname However, in the analyze GUI, it shows: 153.69.214.203 SenderBase: status=not classified, data=US, NCR CORPORATION, , , Y, 11 The hostname doesn't appear. Shouldn't it? On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM, K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you both for sticking with this. > > Greyhat, my name's Ken :) Seriously though, the Force has taught me that > you need to reverse the IP, which makes much more sense. Thanks. > > Thomas, I know ASSP uses DNS, I just didn't know if it was querying > differently than I was testing - and it is, the RIGHT way - reversing the > IP. > > I now see the hostname being returned, and I can match on that through a > regex. Doesn't that open up vulnerability though if a spammer has their > SMTP server's IP address reverse to mtaxxx.e.delta.com? Likely, > probably not, but it's what I would do if I were trying to send spam > appearing to be from Delta - or worse, one of the banks. > > My language was also incorrect in my original post. I talked about > hostname, but what I'd really like to do is match on the "guess" DOMAIN > name that the senderbase website shows, in this case e.delta.com. So: > 1) Is there a way to have Senderbase return the DOMAIN that it's guessing? > 2) Is there a way to specify in the White Org file that ASSP uses to only > match against network name, hostname, or domain name? > > > > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com > > wrote: > >> ASSP uses DNS queries for Senderbase. >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> Von: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> >> An: ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Datum: 07.05.2015 20:36 >> Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase not always matching domain >> >> >> >> It doesn't seem like the domain is being returned, just the network name, >> so a lot domains that should result in a white org score, aren't hitting. >> This doesn't appear to be an ASSP problem >> >> I just did a lookup for the ip 38.100.169.66 >> At the senderbase website, it shows a domain of e.delta.com, which I have >> whitelisted (Delta Airlines) >> >> However, a nslookup for the txt record only shows >> 38.100.169.66.query.senderbase.org text = >> >> "0-0=1|1=CHARTER >> >> COMMUNICATIONS|2=7.2|3=7.3|4=62870|6=0|7=47|8=9404927|9=157351|45=N|46=16|48=24|50=Fort >> Worth|5 >> 1=TX|52=76114|53=US|54=-97.3972|55=32.7807" >> >> Nowhere to I see e.delta.com which explains why ASSP isn't matching. Is >> this the same way that ASSP queries senderbase? Is there a way to have >> ASSP ask senderbase to return the best guess domain name just like >> SenderBase does on its website? That would solve the problem where the >> netblock is a major carrier, that carrier can't be whitelisted, but the >> domain that's returned (or hostname) is whitelisted. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:34 PM, K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > SenderBaseLog was set to standard before. Set it to diagnostic. >> > >> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Thomas Eckardt < >> > thomas.ecka...@thockar.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > > but where's the senderbase line in the log? >> >> >> >> check SenderBaseLog >> >> >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Von: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> >> >> An: ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >> >> Datum: 05.05.2015 18:21 >> >> Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] Senderbase not always matching domain >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >good point but I've no answer, sounds like you found a bug >> >> Hopefully Thomas will have some time to look into this. >> >> >> >> Thanks again. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Grayhat <gray...@gmx.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > :: On Tue, 5 May 2015 11:22:07 -0400 >> >> > :: >> <CALhpkAnP1_EObYXMgfduF7smppj82gPx1=tbtp+vpsq0xlj...@mail.gmail.com> >> >> > :: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > Sorry Greyhat, you lost me. What does this show different from >> >> > > > what I was >> >> > > saying? Maybe I wasn't clear. >> >> > > When I pull up the analyze interface in assp it shows only Cogent, >> >> > > doesn't show e.delta.com, do it's not a match to my regex, and >> >> > > thereby doesn't get the whitesenderorg bonus. >> >> > >> >> > yeah, you're right, it's a strange behavior; I wonder if ASSP is >> using >> >> > the /24 instead of the IP (didn't check the code) ... >> >> > >> >> > > And here's another issue I'm seeing with Senderbase: >> >> > > >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> u...@ourcharity.org >> >> > > DKIM-Signature found >> >> > >> >> > and here ASSP says that the message contains a DKIM signature >> >> > >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> u...@ourcharity.org >> >> > > info: domain emails.snapfish.com has published a DMARC record >> >> > >> >> > and that the sending MTA domain (emails...) publishes a DMARC record >> >> > >> >> > http://www.senderbase.org/lookup/?search_string=12.130.137.89 >> >> > >> >> > > [MissingMX] 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> > > u...@ourcharity.org [scoring] MX missing: emails.snapfish.com >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> u...@ourcharity.org >> >> > > Message-Score: added 10 (mxValencePB) for MX missing: >> >> > > emails.snapfish.com, total score for this message is now 10 >> >> > >> >> > wrong, the domain has two MX records, that is >> >> > >> >> > MX 10 imh.rsys2.net. >> >> > MX 20 imh2.rsys2.net. >> >> > >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> > > u...@ourcharity.org HMM Check [scoring] - Prob: 1.00000 => spam >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 <snapfish.4...@envfrm.rsys2.com> to: >> >> u...@ourcharity.org >> >> > > Message-Score: added 49 for HMM Probability: 1.0000, total score >> for >> >> > > this message is now 59 >> >> > >> >> > ok sounds like HMM isn't properly trained, let's skip this one for >> the >> >> > moment ... >> >> > >> >> > > The from IP in the Responsys network, and I've got that network >> >> > > whitelisted in my senderbasewhite org config. I've got senderbase >> >> > > set to score. Senderbase logging is set to normal. >> >> > >> >> > here's what senderbase replies when queried (over DNS) for that IP >> >> > >> >> > IP address : 12.130.137.89 >> >> > version : 1 >> >> > org_name : RESPONSYS >> >> > org_daily_magnitude : 7.3 >> >> > org_monthly_magnitude : 7.2 >> >> > org_first_message : 0 >> >> > org_domains_count : 3 >> >> > org_ip_controlled_count : 5640 >> >> > org_ip_used_count : 2889 >> >> > hostname : omp.emails.snapfish.com >> >> > hostname_matches_ip : Y >> >> > ip_daily_magnitude : 4.1 >> >> > ip_monthly_magnitude : 4.7 >> >> > ip_average_magnitude : 4.8 >> >> > ip_30_day_volume_percent : 7.8 >> >> > ip_in_bonded_sender : N >> >> > ip_cidr_range : 12.130.136.0/22 >> >> > undocumented #48 : 24 >> >> > ip_country : US >> >> > ip_longitude : -97.0 >> >> > ip_latitude : 38.0 >> >> > >> >> > so, yes, the ASSP org check should match that "RESPONSYS" if you >> placed >> >> > it in whiteorg >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > In the ASSP analyze interface, it shows a WHITE match as it >> should) >> >> > > 12.130.137.89 SenderBase: status=white SenderBase, >> >> > > data=US, RESPONSYS, , , Y, 22 >> >> > > but where's the senderbase line in the log? >> >> > >> >> > good point but I've no answer, sounds like you found a bug >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> >> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> >> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >> Insights >> >> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Assp-test mailing list >> >> > Assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> One dashboard for servers and applications across >> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >> Insights >> >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Assp-test mailing list >> >> Assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> >> ******************************************************* >> >> This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential, >> legally >> >> privileged and protected in law and are intended solely for the use of >> the >> >> >> >> individual to whom it is addressed. >> >> This email was multiple times scanned for viruses. 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