>wasted time
Okay, then what other options are there?  More and more spf records seem to
be long like this, and they're failing.    (I know I could use a linux
system, but the powers that be won't let me - because the commercial linux
vendors don't support the OS for free for our charity like Microsoft does -
super frustrating, but it's the deck of cards that I've been dealt)



On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:

> >I'm going to try to find some time later today to play
>
> wasted time
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:    K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:  08.05.2015 17:53
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] SPF record from DNS received in 2 lines
> probelm
>
>
>
> This tool: http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html claims that the SPF
> record is fine, it also shows it on one line.
>
> It seems like the Windows DNS mechanism is splitting the results, or at
> least NSLOOKUP does.  Does Mail::SPF use windows for DNS?  Probably, I'd
> think.
>
> Does ASSP have access to an array of results from Mail::SPF::Query? Maybe
> they're supposed to be concatenated or something?  Really just a wild
> guess.  I'm going to try to find some time later today to play with the
> module, though I'm no perl wiz.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Thomas Eckardt
> <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > b.news.saksoff5th.com   text =
> > >
> > >         "v=spf1 ip4:63.232.236.204/30 ip4:8.7.44.124/31
> > ip4:8.7.44.123/32
> > > ip4:8.7.44.126/32 ip4:207.251.96.0/24 ip4:65.1
> > > 25.54.0/24 ip4:2"
> > >         "08.49.63.128/28 ip4:63.211.90.16/29 ip4:8.7.42.16/29 ip4:
> > > 8.7.43.16/29 ip4:63.232.236.144/29 ip4:8.7.44.144/29 i
> > > p4:63.236.31.128"
> > >         "/26 ip4:63.236.76.0/23 ip4:8.30.201.0/26 ~all"
> >
> > There is nothing to fix - everything is working OK. IMHO this SPF record
> > is simply wrong.
> > How should an SPF application know, that the second part is an addition
> to
> > the first part, if the first part is terminated (").
> > It should be:
> >
> > >         "v=spf1 ip4:63.232.236.204/30 ip4:8.7.44.124/31
> > ip4:8.7.44.123/32
> > > ip4:8.7.44.126/32 ip4:207.251.96.0/24 ip4:65.1
> > > 25.54.0/24 ip4:2
> > >         08.49.63.128/28 ip4:63.211.90.16/29 ip4:8.7.42.16/29 ip4:
> > > 8.7.43.16/29 ip4:63.232.236.144/29 ip4:8.7.44.144/29 i
> > > p4:63.236.31.128
> > >         /26 ip4:63.236.76.0/23 ip4:8.30.201.0/26 ~all"
> >
> > The line processing is done by Mail::SPF not by ASSP!
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Von:    K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> > An:     ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Datum:  07.05.2015 17:32
> > Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] SPF record from DNS received in 2 lines
> > probelm
> >
> >
> >
> > This seems to be happening regularly - enough to be causing serious SPF
> > reliability errors
> >
> > Received-SPF: permerror (homedepot.com: Unknown mechanism type 'inclu'
> in
> > 'v=spf1' record) receiver=assp.OurCharity.org; identity=mailfrom;
> > envelope-from="homede...@homedepot.com"; helo=mail-ext.escalate.com;
> > client-ip=64.124.92.69
> >
> > When I do a NSLookup in Windows 8 or Windows 2012, I see:
> >         "v=spf1 ip4:207.11.40.24 ip4:207.11.40.25 ip4:207.11.27.104
> > ip4:207.11.27.105 ip4:50.57.54.137 ip4:64.124.92.69
> > a:smtp01.edifecs.com a:smtp02.edifecs.com include:
> > spf.messaging.microsoft.com include:cust-spf.exacttarget.com include:s
> > pf.mailengine1.com inclu"    <--- note the quote and the line break
> >         "de:spf.mtasv.net ~all"
> >
> > That "inclu" at the end of the line is interpreted as ASSP as invalid,
> > which it IS, but assp should be seeing that 2nd line that starts "de" to
> > make "include."  Of course this seems like more of a problem with
> windows
> > DNS.  It dosn't matter if I use internal windows DNS servers or Google's
> > (presumably Linux) 8.8.8.8 server.  Same formatting of the results.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this on windows?
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM, K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On my windows systems, when I do a NSLookup for the SPF record for
> > > b.news.saksoff5th.com, I get
> > > > b.news.saksoff5th.com
> > > Server:  google-public-dns-a.google.com
> > > Address:  8.8.8.8
> > > b.news.saksoff5th.com   text =
> > >
> > >         "v=spf1 ip4:63.232.236.204/30 ip4:8.7.44.124/31
> > ip4:8.7.44.123/32
> > > ip4:8.7.44.126/32 ip4:207.251.96.0/24 ip4:65.1
> > > 25.54.0/24 ip4:2"
> > >         "08.49.63.128/28 ip4:63.211.90.16/29 ip4:8.7.42.16/29 ip4:
> > > 8.7.43.16/29 ip4:63.232.236.144/29 ip4:8.7.44.144/29 i
> > > p4:63.236.31.128"
> > >         "/26 ip4:63.236.76.0/23 ip4:8.30.201.0/26 ~all"
> > >
> > > Looking at the mail analyzer, I get:
> > > Received-SPF: permerror (b.news.saksoff5th.com: Missing required IPv4
> > > address in 'ip4:2') receiver=antispam.nexario.net; identity=mailfrom;
> > >
> envelope-from="bo-b9vk0mvatcv9czaumtyq5qcby69...@b.news.saksoff5th.com";
> > > helo=mta954.news.saksoff5th.com; client-ip=8.7.44.125
> > >
> > > So ASSP doesn't like ip4:2 which is't seeing at the end of line 1 of
> the
> > > DNS entry.
> > >
> > > I think this might be a windows problem.  If I go here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=txt%3ab.news.saksoff5th.com&run=toolpage
>
> >
> > > I see the entire record, without the line splits.
> > >
> > > Any chance of having ASSP combine records like this?  I feel like it
> > could
> > > potentially be a problem for DKIM and DMARC records too, though I'm
> just
> > > guessing based on potential length, not experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> >
> >
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