Very interesting Thomas.  Accepting the mail and then reporting is a
fascinating idea!  Gotta figure that out on the MTA side.  I guess I'll ask
for complete honeypotting as a feature request in ASSP now, purely as a
pipe-dream, but with the hopes that you'll be so inspired and somehow carve
out the time.

Thanks

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:

> I do this in a similar way for years.
>
> - my group is [dummy]
> - I replace all addresses of the honeypot-domain one (every time the same
> for each spam domain) valid local address
> - nodelay has
> 0.0.0.0/1=>[dummy]
> 128.0.0.0/1=>[dummy]
>
> [dummy] is also in hlSpamLovers - helos should never blocked for the
> honeypot
>
> if a mail is detected as spam - fine - stored - nothing wrong - but..
> NOTHING TO LEARN for assp (BAD until the next complete rebuildspamdb was
> finished)
> if it is not detected as spam, it is delivered to the dummy user - now the
> trick - the mailbox of this user has an agent, which spam-reports and
> deletes any incomming mail immediatly
> because the rebuild is running permanent (if configured) - assp learns
> just in time the new reported spam (also for all the other real users)
>
> >The problem is that the volume of spam is causing the sender Ip to goto
> the
> >extremePB.
>
> you should disable this - it is in montor mode (early is disabled) on my
> prod system
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Von:    K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:  29.07.2015 15:18
> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Fwd: Honeypot addresses, any way to bypass
> extremepb?
>
>
>
> I sent this in early June to the user list, but it got no play, so I
> figured that I'd give here a go.
> Thanks
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:34 AM
> Subject: Honeypot addresses, any way to bypass extremepb?
> To: For Users of ASSP <assp-u...@lists.sourceforge.net>
>
>
> I've setup a couple honeypot subdomains.  My intention is to use them to
> gather more and more varied spam messages.
>
> This might just be a case of ASSP not being intended for this, in which
> case I'll just kill the subdomains or donate them to project honeypot.
>  ..or I could just be doing it wrong.
>
> I have the subdomains listed in a group like this
> [HONEYPOT-ADDRESSES]
> @subdomain1.ourcharity.org
> @subdomain2.ourcharity.org
>
> and I have that group listed in SpamAddresses
>
> The problem is that the volume of spam is causing the sender Ip to goto
> the
> extremePB.
>
> in block reports, I see:
> spam reason: (score for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is 645, surpassing extreme level
> of
> 601) [--the subject--]
>
> and as such, the messages aren't being collected.
>
> Is there a way to tell ASSP to collect mail into the spam folder for
> specific addresses?  Don't process them, don't block based on IP, just
> gobble up the mail, save it in spam, and give the IP a score.  Maybe don't
> even give the sender an error, but don't use extremepb for mails
> exclusively to these addresses  --like a honeypot should work.
>
> Again, if this is a bad idea, counter to ASSP's mission / design, etc,
> I'll
> just ditch the concept.
>
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