Apart from the fact that the MaintThread (10000) does not store the file time correctly for 'Groups' included files (which will be fixed), everything else you asked is answered in the GUI for an IT prof. Every security related content is encryped or not shown by assp.
>I just saw this again in the statusassp gui 1 33 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) This is the last finished (debug) step (and the seconds since then - 33) in rereading the config, before the new regular expressions (IP) are build by each thread. >For years, I've run an external script to query various providers' SPF records and get the IP addresses for them into a file. For what reason? Thomas Von: "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com> An: "ASSP development mailing list" <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net> Datum: 27.10.2021 08:45 Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again Looking more at these include files in my groups definition. If I open them in the OS immediately after they're generated, it looks as expected. Something like: # # Generated by WriteFile-GetDomainIPSFromSPF.pl # 198.2.128.0/24 FROMSPF: spf.mandrillapp.com 198.2.132.0/22 FROMSPF: spf.mandrillapp.com 198.2.136.0/23 FROMSPF: spf.mandrillapp.com 198.2.145.0/24 FROMSPF: spf.mandrillapp.com Once ASSP loads them though, it goes into some kind of encoded/encrypted format, a single long line, all hexidecimal like: 2acc4d3156084a1a3edc250c1f32bc5........ (continues) Is this normal behavior? I haven't found any mention of it in the GUI. I'm not using configuration sharing. The other config files don't seem to have this hexidecimal conversion, only the ones I generate with my script. I can edit the included files from the Groups section, by clicking the various "Edit included file <path>" button. It looks normal, not hex encoded. Note: the bottom of the editor window says: "First line specifies text that appears in the subject of report message. The remaining lines are the report message body." I'm guessing that's just an oversight. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: That's helpful Thomas, thank you. I've clearly got more digging to do, and I will, but I could use more guidance on what I've found so far if you have the time. 1) ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) I just saw this again in the statusassp gui 1 33 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 2 32 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 3 31 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 4 30 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 5 29 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 6 19 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 7 27 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 10000 26 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) 10001 39 s call to ConfigChangeTLSPorts->(TLStoProxyListenPorts,'',,Initializing) With worker logging set to diagnostic, I see saw a full screen of Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: Main_Thread can't interrupt Worker_4 (2) at the moment - try next worker Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: Main_Thread is unable to interrupt any worker for new connection - wait for available worker (max 30 seconds) Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: try to interrupt worker Worker_3 (0) for new connection Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: Main_Thread can't interrupt Worker_3 (0) at the moment - try next worker Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: try to interrupt worker Worker_2 (0) for new connection Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: Main_Thread can't interrupt Worker_2 (0) at the moment - try next worker Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: try to interrupt worker Worker_5 (0) for new connection Oct-26-21 10:14:06 Info: Main_Thread can't interrupt Worker_5 (0) at the moment - try next worker ...many many lines of that in a row. What could be causing ConfigChangeTLSPorts to be initializing using all workers? I've seen this before with POP3 configure, even though POP3 isn't used and isn't configured. 2) External config files always showing as changed??? For years, I've run an external script to query various providers' SPF records and get the IP addresses for them into a file. (provided a couple times here for community use). I then use that file in group definitions. For example, in the Groups file, I have: [GROUP-SENDGRID-IPS] # include IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.com.cfg # include IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.net.cfg Those 2 .cfg files are generated by the script doing a spf lookup for sendgrid.com and another for sendgrid.net. It recursively processes the records. The script runs once every 3 hours to capture any DNS changes that providers might make. The script isn't smart enough to know if anything has changed, it just re-writes the files every time. Once ASSP reads them, it seems that they get saved encrypted. I am able to view them fune using the GUI, but opening the .cfg files from the OS shows an encrypted long string. Even though my script only changes the files every 3 hours, I'm seeing entries in the log (with maintenance logging set to diagnostic) which indicates that ASSP thinks that they're changing every time, and it seems to be checking these files twice per scheduled reload. Oct-26-21 10:36:00 Worker_4 will sleep now Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: (re)scheduled ReloadOptionFiles -> nextOptionCheck for Oct-26-21 10:41:03 Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.net.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) <-- It changed at 9:33, but also 8:33, 7:33, etc. Why does it think last change was yesterday at 21:30? Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-amazon.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-yahoo.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-mailchimp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-myngp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-salesforce.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-mandrillapp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-verticalresponse.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-bluestatedigital.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-google.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-force.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-constantcontact.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-facebookmail.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-outlook.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-hotmail.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-pphosted.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-ccsend.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-spf.constantcontact.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-facebook.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: (re)scheduled ReloadOptionFiles -> nextHashFileCheck for Oct-26-21 10:41:03 Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Saving config Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file d:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_5 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_1 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_4 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_3 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_6 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Worker_7 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:36:03 Info: DNS-check-interval is set to 60 seconds, DNS-error-recovery-interval is set to 5 seconds Oct-26-21 10:36:04 Info: Main_Thread got connection request Oct-26-21 10:36:04 Info: Main_Thread freed by idle Worker_3 in 0.067 seconds and 1 cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:36:04 Info: Worker_3 is interrupted to get new connection Oct-26-21 10:36:04 Connected: session:7327C910 193.169.253.240:55146 > a.b.c.60:25 > a.b.c.35:25 Oct-26-21 10:36:05 Info: Main_Thread got connection request Oct-26-21 10:36:05 Info: Main_Thread freed by interrupted Worker_3 in 0.069 seconds and 1 cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:36:05 Info: Worker_3 is interrupted to get new connection Oct-26-21 10:36:05 x.y.z.90 IP x.y.z.90 matches acceptAllMail - with x.y.z.90/32 Oct-26-21 10:36:05 Connected: session:89B52FB0 x.y.z.90:54247 > a.b.c.60:62974 > a.b.c.35:25 Oct-26-21 10:36:05 msg58965-29399 [unsupported_AUTH] 193.169.253.240 AUTH not allowed Oct-26-21 10:36:05 msg58965-29399 193.169.253.240 Message-Score: added 126 (autValencePB) for too many (1) AUTH errors from 193.169.253.0, total score for this message is now 126 Oct-26-21 10:36:05 msg58965-29399 193.169.253.240 [SMTP Error] 502 AUTH not supported Oct-26-21 10:36:09 Info: spam folder content was reread for MaxAllowedDups Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.net.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) <-- it just notified of this at 10:36:03. Is it just notifying twice, or is it checking twice? Why does it still think the previous update was yesterday? It does this with all of the ip lists that are included. Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-amazon.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-yahoo.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-mailchimp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-myngp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-salesforce.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-mandrillapp.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-verticalresponse.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-bluestatedigital.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-google.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-force.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-constantcontact.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-facebookmail.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-outlook.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-hotmail.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-pphosted.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-ccsend.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-spf.constantcontact.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-facebook.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:11 Info: found changed include file 'IP-Lists/IPS-sendgrid.com.cfg' for config 'Groups' - old (Oct-25-21 21:30:41), new (Oct-26-21 09:33:11) Oct-26-21 10:36:15 Info: Main_Thread got connection request <-- nothing for 30 seconds, then the main thread unable to transfer Oct-26-21 10:36:46 Info: notification message queued to sent to assp-not...@ourcharity.org Oct-26-21 10:36:46 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! Oct-26-21 10:37:17 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! -- 30 seconds after the first one. Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_6 finished reloading configuration Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread freed by interrupted Worker_3 in 78.187 seconds and 1 cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_3 finished reloading configuration Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread got connection request Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread freed by interrupted Worker_3 in 0.199 seconds and 1 cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread got connection request Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread freed by idle Worker_4 in 0.014 seconds and zero cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread got connection request Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Main_Thread freed by idle Worker_6 in 0.014 seconds and zero cycles - got (ok) Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Worker_3 is interrupted to get new connection Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Connected: session:258FF548 216.160.207.10:42420 > a.b.c.60:25 > a.b.c.35:25 Oct-26-21 10:37:33 msg58965-29399 193.169.253.240 info: PB-IP-Score for '193.169.253.0' is 2268, added 126 in this session Oct-26-21 10:37:33 msg58965-29399 193.169.253.240 disconnected: session:7327C910 193.169.253.240 - processing time 89 seconds Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_4 finished reloading configuration Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_4 will sleep now Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_6 will sleep now Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Worker_3 is interrupted to get new connection Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Connected: session:8FC33A40 104.237.139.48:57300 > a.b.c.60:25 > a.b.c.35:25 Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Worker_4 wakes up Oct-26-21 10:37:33 Info: Worker_4 got connection from MainThread This type of behavior shouldn't be expected should it? On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 6:01 AM Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com > wrote: >I tried to see where SaveConfig() SaveConfig() is called in the Main_Thread (Worker_0) every time, anything in the assp configuration was changed. And under normal cirumstances, after that, all workers are told to check there configuration (and reload) in relation to the new one (lists, files, recompile regexes ....). > I >>think<< if I would have a problem with >"Saving config"< (which is a maintenance task) - I would increase the 'MaintenanceLog' level if I would have a problem with workers >"unable to transfer connection to any worker"< - I would enable WorkerLog and WorkerLogging example log: Oct-25-21 23:12:58 [Worker_10000] Downloading level-2-TLDlist via direct HTTP connection Oct-25-21 23:12:58 [Worker_10000] Level-2-TLDlist download completed Oct-25-21 23:12:58 [Worker_10000] Downloading level-3-TLDlist via direct HTTP connection Oct-25-21 23:12:59 [Worker_10000] Level-3-TLDlist download completed Oct-25-21 23:12:59 [Worker_10000] Info: next TLDlist download in 1 day 5 hours 58 minutes Oct-25-21 23:12:59 [Worker_10000] Info: file c:/assp/files/URIBLCCTLDS.txt updated for URIBLCCTLDS Oct-25-21 23:13:00 [Main_Thread] Saving config Oct-25-21 23:13:00 [Main_Thread] Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file c:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged Oct-25-21 23:13:00 [Main_Thread] Adminupdate: file 'c:/assp/files/URIBLCCTLDS.txt' for config 'URIBLCCTLDS' was changed Oct-25-21 23:13:00 [Main_Thread] Option list file: 'c:/assp/files/URIBLCCTLDS.txt' reloaded (URIBLCCTLDS) with 12,280 records Oct-25-21 23:13:02 [Worker_1] Worker_1 wakes up Oct-25-21 23:13:02 [Worker_5] Worker_5 wakes up Oct-25-21 23:13:02 [Worker_4] Worker_4 wakes up Oct-25-21 23:13:02 [Worker_3] Worker_3 wakes up Oct-25-21 23:13:02 [Worker_2] Worker_2 wakes up Oct-25-21 23:13:03 [Worker_1] Worker_1 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:03 [Worker_1] Worker_1 will sleep now Oct-25-21 23:13:04 [Worker_2] Worker_2 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:04 [Worker_2] Worker_2 will sleep now Oct-25-21 23:13:05 [Worker_3] Worker_3 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:05 [Worker_3] Worker_3 will sleep now Oct-25-21 23:13:06 [Worker_4] Worker_4 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:06 [Worker_4] Worker_4 will sleep now Oct-25-21 23:13:07 [Worker_5] Worker_5 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:07 [Worker_5] Worker_5 will sleep now Oct-25-21 23:13:08 [Worker_10000] Worker_10000 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:10 [Worker_10001] Worker_10001 finished reloading configuration Oct-25-21 23:13:29 [Worker_10000] Downloading Extended Droplist via direct HTTP connection Oct-25-21 23:13:29 [Worker_10000] Extended Droplist already up to date Oct-25-21 23:13:29 [Worker_10000] Info: next droplist download in 7 hours 34 minutes debug may help for time related debugging, I (or some one who read the manual) would consider to use ConfigChangeSchedule notice: analyzing all the produced debug files (in general debug mode) is a very time consuming task Check your option files for bad (too greedy) regular expressions. Check, if there are other processes modifying assp files. Check that required services (DNS, SQL,ClamAV,..... ) are responsive at this time. If (for any reason) it is expected, that the config reload takes 30 seconds or longer - 'ConnectionTransferTimeOut' should be changed - or the "Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again!" should be ignored. If the reload takes X seconds for the MainThread. Within these X seconds all new connections are queued by the OS. After this time (the reload) the MainThread tries to transfer all these new connections within some (milli)seconds to the workers - this may overload the SMTP-workers for some time. Thomas Von: "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com> An: "ASSP development mailing list" < assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net> Datum: 25.10.2021 17:20 Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again We are lucky to have a new (to us) faster server donated since this original May posting on the "unable to transfer connection to any worker" error. However, with the new box with Windows 2019 installation, fully patched, MySQL latest community, and Strawberry perl 5.32 it's still happening in spurts. Not a heavy load, 16gb ram. 12 cores total. ASSP uses about 1.7gb after running for a bit. MySQL seems fast, ClamAV in use. Sometimes I get the warning just once in a day, often it's every 5 minutes for a while. This morning, there were 3 occurrences with 10 minutes in between each. But always, when I look at the log, it's right after the "Saving config" process, always when there's no config changes. I tried to see where SaveConfig() is being called from every 5 minutes. I >>think<< it's when the ReloadOptionFiles timer hits, but I'm not sure. ReloadOptionFiles is set to 300 (5 minutes) AutoReloadCfg is enabled, though I'm never modifying assp.cfg without using the GUI What else should I be looking at? >From today: Oct-25-21 11:09:24 Saving config Oct-25-21 11:09:24 Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file d:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged (a message processed) Oct-25-21 11:09:57 Info: notification message queued to sent to assp-not...@ourcharity.org Oct-25-21 11:09:57 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! assp acts normally for 10 minutes, then: Oct-25-21 11:19:28 Saving config Oct-25-21 11:19:28 Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file d:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged Oct-25-21 11:20:00 Info: notification message queued to sent to assp-not...@ourcharity.org Oct-25-21 11:20:00 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! assp resumes Oct-25-21 11:29:32 Saving config Oct-25-21 11:29:32 Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file d:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged (a single message processed fine here) Oct-25-21 11:30:04 Info: notification message queued to sent to assp-not...@ourcharity.org Oct-25-21 11:30:04 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:53 PM K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm desperate for help. It seems that ASSP has thread problems frequently when it reloads the config. I see warnings that the Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker, often every 5 minutes for hours. May-17-21 20:40:35 Saving config May-17-21 20:40:35 Info: no configuration changes detected - nothing to save - file c:/assp/assp.cfg is unchanged May-17-21 20:41:08 Info: notification message queued to sent to assp-not...@ourcharity.org May-17-21 20:41:08 Warning: Main_Thread is unable to transfer connection to any worker - try again! Even when there's no settings detected (line 2 above), it can hang. I can't seem to figure out why. Windows 2012 R2 Strawberry Perl Latest ASSP Any guidance on where to start? 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