Thanks that helps I thought I was just missing something. I use CC to
collect all that is marked as SPAM and go through it ever so often also.
Just thought I was not doing a setting quite write that might help.

Daniel Du Vall

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William L.
Thomson Jr.
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:19 PM
To: assp-user
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Question on blocked E-MAil


On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 11:41 -0700, Daniel K. Du Vall wrote:
> How do you all deal with merchant sites that send receipts and 
> confirmations when a user purchases from them from getting blocked?
> 
> Getting a lot right now and chalking it up to being the holiday 
> season.

IMHO

Unfortunately that stuff is quite hard for invoices, mailing lists, etc.
Since most don't have their MTA's, DNS records, or etc all setup
properly. Many use a service, and emails are sent by a third party less
SPF. Usually more HTML than text etc and so on. Bottom line, most emails
have more traits in line with spam, than valid emails :(

Really sucks and most times I try to train ASSP to recognize them and
let them through. Helps sometimes, others it takes a while. Sometimes if
DNS is correct end etc. You can allow stuff from the domain to bypass
filters or etc. Although I don't really like that route. Potential for
spammers to abuse if they are crafty.

Lately I seem to be going to jerk route in some minds. I consider it the
informative route. I compose and email and send it to the site/admin in
question or etc. Pointing out technical issues with how they are sending
email. How technically they have traits in line with spam, that can be
corrected. Most can't do much about it, some are willing, others place
the blame on the spam software or etc.

Doesn't really help end users. I try to forward on copies of the invoice
or etc when it's received entirely or etc. But most times it's just
lost. Sometimes it can be resent. Which is what I advise my clients to
do.

They get upset at times they are losing emails. Then I must explain
technically how it's not my fault, or ASSP's really. But that does
little to reassure them :) That's when I play the virus/worm card.

While you might think I am only protecting you from spam. Most virus and
worms, that arrive via email have more traits in line with spam than
legit email. So most always that stuff is kept out of your inbox just as
spam. One virus or worm, could easily does more damage than losing some
minor emails.

As long as the percent that makes it through it greater than the loss.
Most times that approach is justified. Clients understand there is a
price to be paid, and at times it's loss of a few legit emails.

I guess worse case you can setup a spam account or etc. To receive
copies of it all, and if legit forward on from there. I have considered
that approach, but haven't gone that route yet.

--
William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java

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