>info: found bounced sender: <>

If there is no envelope sender provided (it's a bounce mail) - the 'from' 
header check is skipped.

>[scoring] MSGID-sig check failed for bounce sender

If all your outgoing mails are msgid tagged by assp - block on this check.

At least

is listed by [CACHE] ips.backscatterer.org    +  MSGID-sig check failed 
for bounce sender     =    should be blocked by the penalty box 
MessageScore 


Thomas





Von:    Brunner Markus <markus.brun...@starrag.com>
An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Datum:  31.05.2017 17:03
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] DoNoSpoofing4From



Hi,
 
'DoNoFrom' is set to score and nofromValencePB is set to 50. But it was 
not added to total score.
 
 
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] [isbounce] 85.128.182.51 bounce message detected
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com [scoring] SPF: none 
(cache) ip=85.128.182.51 mailfrom=postmas...@alz51.rev.netart.pl 
helo=alz51.rev.netart.pl
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] [DNSBL] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com [scoring] 
DNSBL: neutral, 85.128.182.51 listed in l2.apews.org
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com Message-Score: added 17 
for DNSBL: neutral, 85.128.182.51 listed in l2.apews.org, total score for 
this message is now 17
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com [monitoring] IP: 
85.128.182.51 is listed by [CACHE] ips.backscatterer.org
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com HMM-Check has given 
less than 6 results - using monitoring mode only
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com HMM Check [monitoring] 
- Prob: 0.00000 => ham - answer/query relation: 6% of 46
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com Bayesian Check 
[scoring] - Prob: 0.00000 => ham - answer/query relation: 54% of 48
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com info: found bounced 
sender: <> and recipient: <leah.cr...@starrag.com> without valid 
MSGID-signature
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] [MSGID-sig] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com [scoring] 
MSGID-sig check failed for bounce sender
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com Message-Score: added 25 
(fbmtvValencePB) for MSGID-sig check failed for bounce sender , total 
score for this message is now 42
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:54 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com [Plugin] calling plugin 
ASSP_AFC
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:55 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] [MessageOK] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com message ok 
[Invoice 81687624195 Crist Leah]
17-05-10.maillog.txt:May-10-17 21:27:55 m1-44474-10908 [Worker_1] 
[TLS-out] 85.128.182.51 to: leah.cr...@starrag.com info: PB-IP-Score for 
'85.128.182.0' is 0, added 17 in this session
 
 
Why?
 
Markus
 
 
Von: Thomas Eckardt [mailto:thomas.ecka...@thockar.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 16:44
An: For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Betreff: Re: [Assp-user] DoNoSpoofing4From
 
'DoNoFrom' will detect this from header as invalid 

btw: not only assp detects this mistake (if configured) 

X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.812 tagged_above=-10 
            tests=[FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.105, FROM_NO_USER=2.599, 
            HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, 
MIME_BASE64_TEXT=0.001, 
            MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.105] autolearn=disabled 

spamassassin also 

Thomas





Von:        Brunner Markus <markus.brun...@starrag.com> 
An:        For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Datum:        31.05.2017 16:22 
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] DoNoSpoofing4From 




Hi, 
  
this is the full header. 
  
Received: from mail.starrag.com (10.152.1.40) by RO57anon.starrag.com 
(10.152.1.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.279.2; Wed, 10 May 2017 
21:27:36 +0200 
Received: from alz51.rev.netart.pl (ro37.starrag.com [10.254.1.223]) by 
mail.starrag.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53717E00CF          for 
<leah.cr...@starrag.com>; Wed, 10 May 2017 21:27:54 +0200 (CEST) 
X-Assp-ID: mail.starrag.com m1-44474-10908 
X-Assp-Session: F283A48 (mail 1) 
X-Assp-Intended-For: leah.cr...@starrag.com 
X-Assp-Version: 2.5.5(16366) on mail.starrag.com 
X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes 
X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (gripvalue low: 0.29); 10 May 2017 
            21:27:54 +0200 
X-Assp-Received-SPF: none (cache) ip=85.128.182.51 
mailfrom=postmas...@alz51.rev.netart.pl 
            helo=alz51.rev.netart.pl 
X-Original-Authentication-Results: mail.starrag.com; spf=none 
X-Assp-Message-Score: 17 (DNSBL: neutral, 85.128.182.51 listed in 
            l2.apews.org) 
X-Assp-IP-Score: 17 (DNSBL: neutral, 85.128.182.51 listed in 
            l2.apews.org) 
X-Assp-DNSBL: neutral, 85.128.182.51 listed in (l2.apews.org<-127.0.0.2; ) 

X-Assp-Spam-Level: **** 
Received: from alz51.rev.netart.pl ([85.128.182.51] 
helo=alz51.rev.netart.pl) 
            by mail.starrag.com with SMTP (2.5.5); 10 May 2017 21:27:54 
+0200 
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV (14) 
X-Spam-Flag: NO 
X-Spam-Score: 3.812 
X-Spam-Level: *** 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.812 tagged_above=-10 
            tests=[FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.105, FROM_NO_USER=2.599, 
            HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, 
MIME_BASE64_TEXT=0.001, 
            MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.105] autolearn=disabled 
Received: from [10.0.0.38] (remote.dse-ltd.co.uk [81.133.147.22]) by 
goreckizory.nazwa.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9737FEEB   for 
<leah.cr...@starrag.com>; Wed, 10 May 2017 21:27:34 +0200 (CEST) 
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 20:27:30 +0000 
From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9obi5Sb2JiaW5zQHN0YXJyYWcuY29t?= 
Message-ID: <62112125579.2017510192...@starrag.com> 
To: <leah.cr...@starrag.com> 
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?SW52b2ljZSA4MTY4NzYyNDE5NSBDcmlzdCBMZWFo?= 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
            boundary="_c10740b4-96ca-4ccf-89ab-02bf68b8d5c3_" 
Return-Path: <> 
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: RO57.starrag.com 
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal 
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 10 
  
How can mails like this be blocked? 
  
Best Regards 
Markus 
  
  
  
Von: Thomas Eckardt [mailto:thomas.ecka...@thockar.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 13:49
An: For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Betreff: Re: [Assp-user] DoNoSpoofing4From 
  
this header is invalid - so there is nothing to recognize 

From: =?UTF-8?B?U2NoZXJyZXIgS2V2aW4=?= <u...@domain.com> 

would be the valid variant 
 
a from header has to contain a valid email address - if this is provided, 
it will be used by assp 

Thomas





Von:        Brunner Markus <markus.brun...@starrag.com> 
An:        "assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <
assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Datum:        31.05.2017 13:11 
Betreff:        [Assp-user] DoNoSpoofing4From 





Hi, 
 
is there a way that assp recognize UTF8/b64 encoded “from” header for 
spoofing? 
 
Header looks like: 
From: =?UTF-8?B?U2NoZXJyZXIgS2V2aW4=?= 
 
Freundliche Grüsse / Kind regards 

Markus Brunner 
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