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Today's Topics:
1. PBXfreeware.org Open for business! / JavaScript module for
Asterisk Unveiled! (Brian West)
2. Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 11, Issue 66 (Mark Burcher)
3. RE: CC Fraud (John Lange)
4. Re: RE: VISA - MC - Fraud (Kenneth Shaw)
5. VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax, LiveVOIP, NuFone,
VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs (Kenneth Shaw)
6. Re: VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax, LiveVOIP,
NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
7. RE: CC Fraud (Kenneth Shaw)
8. RE: CC Fraud (Mike)
9. Nationwide DID's available (Jed Stafford)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:23:06 -0500
From: Brian West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] PBXfreeware.org Open for business! /
JavaScript module for Asterisk Unveiled!
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion <[email protected]>
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June 20th, 2005
PBXfreeware.org Open for business!
Anthony Minessale II, CTO and implementer of Asterlink, has announced
the grand opening of PBXfreeware.org, a new site designed to supply
the open source PBX community with access to contributed open source
applications. To kick start the release, Anthony has uploaded a few
of his own popular open source modules for Asterisk namely res_perl,
res_sqlite and app_valetparking as well as a brand new module just
released today. "The site is not complete as far as my final vision
is concerned but we decided it was important to get it up and running
so we can set the code distribution process in motion.", Minessale
remarked. Anthony is also hosting the upcoming ClueCon Open Source
PBX Conference (http://www.cluecon.com). If you are unfamiliar with
his work a list of his more popular Asterisk contributions can be
found at http://www.cluecon.com/anthm.html
June 20th, 2005
JavaScript module for Asterisk Unveiled!
Anthony Minessale II, CTO and implementer of Asterlink and producer
of the upcoming ClueCon Open Source PBX Conference (http://
www.cluecon.com) has announced the immediate availability of res_js,
a JavaScript module for the Asterisk Open Source PBX. The module
embeds a live JavaScript interpreter in the Asterisk server and makes
it possible to execute .js files as IVR scripts the module comes with
a large example script that showcases all of the Asterisk-specific
usage. One of the most robust features allows you to white or black
list application names, variable names and function calls in a
special security mode that makes it possible to extend permission to
the end user to manage his or her own IVR scripting and prevent abuse.
Brian West
Asterlink.com
877-278-7565 x 1000
---
Anakin: "You're either with me, or you're my enemy."
Obi-Wan: "Only a Sith could be an absolutist."
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:50:33 +0100
From: Mark Burcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 11, Issue 66
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello there,
I am away on holiday until the 12th July, 2005.
Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kind regards
Mark Burcher
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T.T.N.C. Limited
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Tel : +44 (0)8704 68 68 68
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T.T.N.C. Limited.
Registered in England and Wales.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:56:24 -0500
From: John Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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My 2c...
Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the area
code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though this isn't
100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York... You
have a problem.
--
John Lange
President OpenIT ltd. www.Open-IT.ca (204) 885 0872
VoIP, Web services, Linux Consulting, Server Co-Location
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:13:34 -0700
From: Kenneth Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] RE: VISA - MC - Fraud
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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This is what Visa International is. Not Visa USA, which is a separate
entity. Look it up. Realize that the international arms of credit card
companies are actually separate corporations/organizations and are not
owned by their US counterparts. For the most part, what you're
suggesting is already in place.
Realistically, the problem is in international and maritime law, and
there is no governing body. The WTO is trying to change this but the
actual benefit of the WTO or globalization is up for debate.
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 15:13 +0200, Danny Froberg wrote:
How about a members only system?
A company has a problem with a person / company / card, report it to the
system, company #2 gets a signup that matches an entry in the database
and callback returns a alert flag so the second company can do manual
authorization/activation...
That way the data would be protected, it's not publicly available lists,
but you would need the info to match it...
Am I making any sense? ;)
/Danny
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 20:39 +0900, Hermann Wecke wrote:
> Steve Kennedy wrote:
> > Would be illegal in the UK (Data Protection Act) if you identify
> > indivuals from it I believe.
>
> Some countries may consider illegal to (freely) publish individual data
> if you are trying to collect money from him (or the company). You also
> need to think that the data is fake - someone is impersonating another
> person. Quite usual in the U.S. also.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:56:04 -0700
From: Kenneth Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax,
LiveVOIP, NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs
To: [email protected]
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For all Inter-exchange carriers using Asterisk,
Someone posted recently on the list about doing something to combat
credit card fraud that the IXPs are encountering right now. I have a
suggestion -- unity.
You would greatly benefit not only yourselves, but the community at
large by building what we really need: a decentralized, uniform,
peer-to-peer, secure voice relay system.
All of you need the same things right now: secure, fraud resistant
payment systems, an easy to use configuration interface, least cost
routing, and the acquisition of cheaper, route ratings, and better
termination/origination lines in foreign countries. In essence, you need
to pool your resources and become what you are destined to be: a minute
exchange.
Your competition is Skype, Vonage, VoicePulse, CallVantage, CallWing,
etc. -- not each other. I really want to see Asterisk grow as a
communications platform, and that will not happen if the small
commercial enterprises that support it die because they cannot compete
on the same scale that the big dogs do.
Jeremy, David, Mike, Mark, and all the others, band together. All of you
currently resell the same companies, and use the same software:
Asterisk. I assure you that Vonage will be bought up by one of the
failed VoIP arms of the AT&Ts, Verizons and Cingulars of the world, but
only after Vonage buys out VoicePulse. And if you think the industry is
too competitive now, just wait until Netscape, er, I mean Google,
launches their Communicator product in early 2007, and Microsoft and
Yahoo start offering similar services.
Realize that Vonage, Mr. Pulver's gig, started out as a concept for a
telecom minute auction. A minute exchange! But back then, the technology
wasn't available (or was too expensive) to pull it off, and so was a
failed business concept.
Become the NYSE of telecom, and make it open so that any company or
individual can directly buy or sell minutes on your network. That's what
people, consumers and businesses, really want.
--
Kenneth Shaw
Director of Technology
ExpiTrans, Inc.
2428 Newport Blvd #8
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
tel: 949 278 7288
fax: 866 494 5043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:04:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax,
LiveVOIP, NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Kenneth Shaw wrote:
Your competition is Skype, Vonage, VoicePulse, CallVantage, CallWing,
etc. -- not each other. I really want to see Asterisk grow as a
communications platform, and that will not happen if the small
commercial enterprises that support it die because they cannot compete
on the same scale that the big dogs do.
No, not really. They aren't my competitors. They may be competitors of my
customers. But that's their problem, not mine.
My competitors (and strangely enough, vendors) are traditional carriers,
like XO, Broadwing, Qwest, etc.
Jeremy, David, Mike, Mark, and all the others, band together. All of you
currently resell the same companies, and use the same software:
Asterisk. I assure you that Vonage will be bought up by one of the
failed VoIP arms of the AT&Ts, Verizons and Cingulars of the world, but
only after Vonage buys out VoicePulse. And if you think the industry is
too competitive now, just wait until Netscape, er, I mean Google,
launches their Communicator product in early 2007, and Microsoft and
Yahoo start offering similar services.
Yes, time to face the music, we are VARs for big boys.
I think you are somewhat confused if you think that residential VoIP is
competition to what people here are doing. There's no benefit of using
asterisk if all you are doing is reselling minutes. It is far more
interesting when you resell advanced services, not simply termination and
origination.
Realize that Vonage, Mr. Pulver's gig, started out as a concept for a
telecom minute auction. A minute exchange! But back then, the technology
wasn't available (or was too expensive) to pull it off, and so was a
failed business concept.
Become the NYSE of telecom, and make it open so that any company or
individual can directly buy or sell minutes on your network. That's what
people, consumers and businesses, really want.
Welcome to arbinet and 1999.
-alex
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:31:01 -0700
From: Kenneth Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Again, already being done. 3D Secure. Amazing, isn't it?
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 13:56 -0500, John Lange wrote:
My 2c...
Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the area
code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though this isn't
100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York... You
have a problem.
--
Kenneth Shaw
Director of Technology
ExpiTrans, Inc.
2428 Newport Blvd #8
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
tel: 949 278 7288
fax: 866 494 5043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:06:37 -0000 (UTC)
From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] RE: CC Fraud
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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YEP we do more complicated things then that and we still get 1-2 every
other day that slips by..
How hard for them to sync ip with DB post they make ... not really hard..
how hard again to tie with a random number in right NPA + area code ..very
easy..
they got theyr stuff tought of..
But then again .. i drink coffee, lots of it, speed is an issue.
You can't wait since its an abuse and they will abuse it fast.
Monitor , Monitor and Re Monitor all accounts
so the more they try.. the more we shrink the hole and its already the
size of a pinhead so they must be searching for other means by now..
Also dont discuss HOW you stop them here... if they intelligent enough to
make autodialers to make theyre 3rd party cash somehow they surely MUST
now about digum , asterisk and this list.
Customer Business Customization
Teliax Inc
Téléphone - Internationnal / Phone - Worldwide: +1-303-629-8304
Sans frais - Canada & É.-U./ Toll Free -.Canada & USA: +1-888-270-3688
Visitez-nous sur internet à/ Visit us on the Web: www.teliax.com
Again, already being done. 3D Secure. Amazing, isn't it?
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 13:56 -0500, John Lange wrote:
My 2c...
Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the
area code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though
this isn't 100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York...
You have a problem.
--
Kenneth Shaw
Director of Technology
ExpiTrans, Inc.
2428 Newport Blvd #8
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
tel: 949 278 7288
fax: 866 494 5043
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:13:31 -0700
From: Jed Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Nationwide DID's available
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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We are now selling DID's through our carriers nationwide. You can
search our available rate centers at http://www.sellvoip.net/
DIDForm.php . We have hundreds of numbers in stock currently, you
cannot search our available list online as of yet. If you have a
specific requirement please email off-list and we can tell you what
we have and can get. Price per DID is $1.00 with a $1.00 setup fee,
inbound usage is at 0.011 per minute. We are only accepting orders
for those looking to order 10 or more DID's.
Kind Regards,
-Jed
http://www.sellvoip.net
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