I'm pretty sure Bob is still in business. He got me IM late Thursday night asking me if I could route 3 DS3 to Mexico for him. He also tried to talk me into a couple for routes and wanted to get prepaid. I told him the last 4 times I tried to work with him it didn't work out so there was no way I would prepay him. I haven't heard from him since then.
I'm pretty sure he's in business. Ted Gibson -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of trixter aka Bret McDanel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:33 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Tomtelecom On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 17:17 -0800, Alex Pui wrote: > >If the company is no longer there, they may not even be prepared to dispute > the >chargeback which means by default you get it, however there are some > >circumstances where this wont be the case. Its worth a try :) > > > The above statement can be misleading. When the credit card has paid the > money to the company that has gone for good (if the company is not that new, > the bank would not hold a large amount for a long period of time), and the > bank now will look at your charge back claim very "carefully" to find the > way to disallow it. > perhaps, that is one of the circumstances that I spoke of, usually if you are quick you can get it though. Depending on the agreement and applicable laws (different states have local laws that apply to residents of those states so its a quagmire) the bank may have to take the hit for merchant fraud or general failure to provide what was paid for. And its upto the bank to try to get the money from the person. Other countries I dont know I havent looked at all into the credit laws of other countries. > If the service is not easy to quantify, and you have receive part of them, > tough luck, your claim will be dismissed. > You have to do all or nothing, agreed, however becuase of that many banks (mine included in that list) will refund all if its merchant fraud (ie you got charged but didnt get goods). I recently went through this with a merchant, my bank had no problems with the fact that some of what I was charged I owe, they refuned everything ... Now, if the merchant doesnt have a bank account anymore (becuase you waited too long or they did everything to hide their impending doom) then it becomes a lot harder. The reality is that the merchant does sign a contract that holds them liable for chargebacks even if that results in a negative balance. If you wait you are surely not going to get anything, but it doesnt hurt to at least try. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz