Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
"dash911" is an excellent answer, stripped of all the condescension.
"Reliable enough" would be even more useful praise than "fairly
inexpensive".
More info about connecting Asterisk directly to the 911 network without
a commercial intermediary is welcome.
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 16:21 -0400, Brian Fertig wrote:
ok apparently your new and wet behind the ears on this one. When you
send ANI or CallerID number to the 911 provider they dip the PSAP
directory before going
to the 911 controller. From there he/she gets all the information she
needs before hand. It’s really a no brainer. You just have to make
sure your customers update
their respective information in the psap directory and your off and
running.. Check out dash911... They are fairly inexpensive..
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Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:16 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Voipjet
How does the company providing E911 services get address info for your
customer who is dialing 911? Don't they need access to your customer
database (most importantly, the table holding the address info
specified by the user as the physical address)?
-brandon
On 8/6/06, Brian Fertig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ohh good lord.. You can integrate asterisk with 911. You don't need
a
module you just buy services from the company and setup your dial plan
to go
there when 911 is called. Nothing more or less.
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Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:04 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Voipjet
How are VoIP retailers supposed to connect to the E911
network? I
don't
see any Asterisk module to do so, nor any public E911 interface to
which
retailers can register/report. Does that mean that Asterisk cannot
offer
retail VoIP connectivity?
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 14:36 -0500, VoIP Street wrote:
Dovid Bender wrote:
End user is defined as ?
I have been using VoIPJet for quite a few months. I use them
mostly
for
testing and failover when I need it. Tonight, I received this
from
them:
HIGHEST PRIORITY
Dear Customers,
We would like to take this opportunity to STRONGLY
REMIND YOU that VoipJet is strictly not a service for end-users.
If you do not understand what this means,
discontinue service immediately and request a refund of your
unused
balance. Only unused funds deposited in the last 30 days are
subject
to
refund, as per our Terms of Service. There are no exceptions to
this
rule.
Thanks,
John
VoipJet Inc.
Dated August 1, 2006
So they do NOT welcome my business any longer since I am an
"end-user"
even though I have never bothered them for tech support nor have
I
even
complained about their service? And per their TOS they woudl not
even
refund my money. Guess I will be dropping them and not giving
them any
more of my money in the future. From now one if they ONLY want
to do
business with non-endusers, then maybe they should require
business
credentials during the sign-up process...
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In defense of VoIP Jet, I think part of the issue is that they are
trying to comply with all the FCC regs in the US. I could be
wrong
though..
As a provider offering "Interconnected VoIP" to "End Users" rather
than
wholesalers, e911 is suppose to be included.
We explain this to our by making them agree to the 911 info on
the
signup page which explains that we are a wholesale offering and DO
NOT
provide 911 services. 911 services are to be provided by the
retailer of
the services which he then resells to the "End User". We do not
however
have any specific way to stop end users from signing up for our
services
at this time.
I am sure at some point in the near future we will allow our
customers
to select "End User" or "Wholesaler" and provide e911 to those of
our
customers who are designated as end users.
There are also other regulations that have shown their ugly face
lately
uncluding the need for VoIP end users in the US to pay into the
USF
(Universal Service Fund). This has made the whole "End User"
and/or
"wholesale" user situation even more confusing and difficult for
providers.
For those providers that could care less about the regulations,
are not
located in the US or just want to fly by the seat of their pants
do not
have to hassle their customers with these issues. At some point
though I
suspect they will have to be hassled by the US government :(
None of this info is intended as legal advice :) Just what we know
so
far, it's all pretty confusing and we are trying to steer through
it
like many other providers.
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####
More info about connecting Asterisk directly to the 911 network without
a commercial intermediary is welcome.
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Good luck with that, I don't think you will have any luck on this front.
When it's all said and done, I am fairly certain all 911 calls from VoIP
are going to have to go through Intrado or a reseller of them.
The FCC is not real interested in making life easy for the small
business person, just in making sure the ILECs boats don't get rocked.
Since Powell left as chairman, the FCC seems to only care about how all
this VoIP stuff affects the AT&Ts and Bells of the world, they could
care less about any of the thousands of small businesses out there
creating services based on VoIP.
OK, so that's another story entirely, don't get me started..
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