It is the market that creates the products and services, and it is the market that eventually defines the outcome of a technology. Uniquivocally, the best choice is always taken. I Don't think Digium, as good a company as it may be, should bear any responsibilities on product direction. What if someone in this forum has better ideas?

What we have is a problem with forum etiquette. We don't respect each other. Talking about our new products and services is like throwing it to the lions. Every product announced/discussed that is incubated by forum members is critized sometimes for reasons so minimal as the mail server of the poster (well, gmail/hotmail/yahoo addressess do look terrible, but you get my point :) ). The only posts that cause possitive reactions are when someone asks for a consultant or a provider. Sometimes I wonder if it is that some people hate to see others come out with products that compete with theirs.

CS



Steve Totaro wrote:
Gmail - PC wrote:
I’ve been following this group for a while. I joined because I believe that
Asterisk, and the development community, needs to develop a detailed
understanding of the customer and their needs if it is going to deliver on the full promise of open-source telephony. It is deep customer understanding
that drives proprietary vendors success – and we all need to develop that
(without access to marketing team that number in the hundreds) if we are
going to compete over the long term.

It reminds me of the early days of Computer Telephony when lots of small
companies were doing innovative applications. Those companies proved the
market for some applications – and they were bought or their applications
copied by the proprietary vendors. Asterisk risks the same fate as the IP
era will be another era of experimentation followed by consolidation.

I see people using the list to announce products or to promote their
products/services. It might be in all of our interests to suggest Digium set up a product database so that anyone can list an Asterisk product or service
(or note an upgrade) and developers have a single place to search for all
things Asterisk. Heck there could even be some aggregated rating on a
variety of factors (installation, service etc) to help in the selection
process. A weekly update could alert people to new additions – to guide
their thinking and discussions with their customers.

This suggestion might cut down on the amount of email while assuring
developers that their product can be promoted, found, and used by the
Asterisk community.

I apologize if this has been tried and rejected – My object is to somehow
highlight or open source our customer insights rather than see them lost in
the discussion that might be better directed to a database query.

Peter

Posting a product to the biz list is mostly futile unless it is termination or something unique. I view it as a press release to the Asterisk community and then I think the wiki should and does handle the rest. Google is good for due dillegence as well.

Things get consolidated such as TrixBox but any opensource product will fork at that point if it is active.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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