Yep totally agree with John. I think Jack Earl has demonstrated he is on crack. - Voip is definitely not dead.
Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicky Smith Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:21 PM To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' Subject: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket Well stated John. I think this discussion can end now. I am exhaused just reading it. Nicky Smith www.carolinanet.com a profitable ISP/Data Center -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scully Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:09 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket Well guys, I hate to tell you this, but we are running several hundred profitable VoIP companies. profitable for us, profitable for our clients, and the only reason they are able to sell service is that they can save their customers money. Vonage lost hundreds of millions by running a ton of stupid TV ads, plus every other possible form of direct to end user advertising. They spent $500 in advertising for every sub they signed. Bad business model Sunrocket sold service below cost. Bad business model. Saying that that voip is not a real product is like saying that selling power and gas is not real because of enron. There are always well funded, public companies burning cash as fast as they can in every new tech area. They just make it damn difficult for real businessmen. John Scully www.isupportisp.com _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz