OOOPS, I meant to say BUT, they backhaul the traffic on a highly controlled network, not the "public" internet.
Thanks, Steve T On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BUT, > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jon Weisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Steve, >> >> I get what you're saying about TDM, but most providers are backhauling their >> traffic via VoIP anyway. What I mean to say is even if you have a PRI w/ >> some carrier they may very well be taking your traffic on that PRI and >> passing it along VoIP to complete the call. >> >> /jon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider >> >> >>> Maybe a bit of clarification about "Is it worth it?". >>> >>> I have always gone by the TDM to the outside world viewpoint. You >>> never know when that one call could be a huge opportunity calling and >>> I think I will stay with that viewpoint for at least a PRI or two. >>> >>> I would hate to lose a deal because of crappy call quality or the call >>> never even hitting my switch. Sure, that could and has happened VERY >>> rarely with TDM, I could count it on one hand with PRI on a circuit >>> that has been turned up for a while and no change orders. >>> >>> At one point in a previous life, we were evaluating what call center >>> to outsource our Spanish calls to. One of the contenders setup a >>> conference bridge and the quality was terrible, then some random woman >>> got on the call and kept saying "hola, hola, hola". This was a poor >>> VoIP setup and made them look terrible. At least use a solid TDM >>> connection for initial sales calls. >>> >>> Well I have signed up with Junction for testing and got a call from a >>> gentleman named Tim within minutes of signing up. I already have a >>> Vitelity account. I will sign up for Teliax and others that have >>> contacted me on and offlist. >>> >>> I will probably setup a regular and also random dialout loop routine >>> using many of the various VoIP providers and use Emperix Hammer with >>> ULAW, recording any outages and the quality of voice. >>> >>> I still have a month and a half before my PRIs renew for a year and >>> now Qwest is offering month to month (only because I put in a >>> disconnect order) which will give me more time as well. >>> >>> The proof will be in the testing. 15mb up and down business FIOS with >>> little to no traffic on the link other than VoIP traffic and server >>> maintenance. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve Totaro >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Steve Totaro >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Junction is a bit expensive (compared to others), the question is, are >>>> they worth it? Downtime or other issues? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Steve T >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Tim Panton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> I have been pretty happy with teliax. >>>>> The only problems I have had are a _very_ occasional outage and a >>>>> shortage of decent capacity to UK cell numbers at peak times. >>>>> >>>>> They have a neat feature which lets you interactively get the rate for >>>>> a number via a REST web service. >>>>> >>>>> I liked junction, but they only deal with US busineses, which probably >>>>> won't be a problem for you and indicates a robust attitude to >>>>> business:-) >>>>> >>>>> If you have enough volume you might want to talk to paetech (spelling?). >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:10, "Steve Totaro" >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gafachi gives 10 outbound and $32/channel one time fee up to 100, >>>>>> beyond that, they want a wire transfer. Poor deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will be looking at Teliax, Vitelity, and Junction Networks, any >>>>>> reviews? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is going on a FIOS business 15mb up and down. Bandwidth >>>>>> shouldn't be an issues since nothing is really on this connection. >>>>>> Latency and reliability are obviously key. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am breaking my no VoIP outside the LAN rule, let's see how it goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is time to either re-up on my PRIs for another year or go VoIP (or >>>>>> both if I can get month to month) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Steve T >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Geoff Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> Teliax has a plan that will meet your needs. We call it the pay as >>>>>>> you go >>>>>>> plan and it can be set up with unlimited channels. Please visit >>>>>>> Teliax.com >>>>>>> and take a look at the Plans tab. It shows that we provide 10 >>>>>>> channels but >>>>>>> we can easily expand that to unlimited. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We charge for usage and any DID's that you choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Teliax is now offering a revamped affiliate program too. Contact me >>>>>>> offline >>>>>>> and I can provide you with all of the details. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Geoff Love >>>>>>> 303-629-8304 >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve >>>>>>> Totaro >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:49 PM >>>>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >>>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking for a good quality provider with good rates to the US >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Canada. My main concern is the number of simultaneous channels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gafachi has ten for outbound. Is there a provider that has >>>>>>> "unlimited" and just bases cost on call destination and duration? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Steve Totaro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>>> >>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>> >>>>> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >>>>> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >>>>> >>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>> >>> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >>> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
