Oh cmon did you know that Apple has release the Apple I since? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I :)
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Don Kelly <d...@donkelly.biz> wrote: > Well, I'm back from Mars. Time has passed me by. > > When I moved to Minnesota from the Los Angeles CA area in 1972, it was pricy > to call more than a couple miles in LA and most metropolitan areas and I > think this is still the situation in some areas. The Twin Cities MN area has > always had a large local calling area with basic phone service > (unfortunately the intrastate LD costs are among the worst). > > Of course, none of this matters much to those of us who use cell phones for > virtually all LD, and those who have "unlimited" LD plans. > > --Don > > > -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:07 AM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ??? > > From Manhatan to the Bronx costs no more than from Manhatan to > Manhatan. Whether one has a plan that makes calling from Manhatan to > Manhatan (hence from Manhatan to the Bronx) free is up to that one to > negotiate with their provider, but when they do they will have the > same price to 5 area codes ALL exchanges in those area codes; 212, > 718, 646, 347 and 917. > > On 10/31/10, Don Kelly <d...@donkelly.biz> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com >> [mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:40 PM >> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ??? >> >> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Don Kelly <d...@donkelly.biz> wrote: >>> If your decision is based on cost alone, it’s likely that the SIP > solution >>> is best. >>> >>> >>> >>> However, if your client requires voice quality and reliability, the PRI >>> solution will likely win. >>> >>> >>> >>> 10-15 concurrent calls over DSL is probably not a good solution. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you’re considering a T1 for Internet access, it’s probably not a >>> considerable increase in cost to include PRI. Most LECs offer a hybrid >>> solution that would include 10 PRI voice channels and 832MB Internet >> (really >>> dedicated Internet). >>> >>> >>> >>> If your client is in the Chicago IL USA area the definition of “local” >> comes >>> into play. I’m spoiled as I’m located in the Twin Cities MN area—I think >> we >>> have the world’s largest local calling area. What percentage of your >> >> Why? NYC is really on mars? >> >> Things may have changed, but in most big cities it's not free to call > across >> town. I can call 70+ miles and reach millions of people without incurring >> measured charges. >> >> http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_exch.php?exch=095380 >> >> In New York, can one call from Manhattan to the Bronx for free? >> >> >>> client’s calls are really local? >>> >>> --Don >>> >>> Don Kelly >>> >>> PCF Corp >>> People Come First >>> 651 842-1000 >>> 888 Don Kell(y) >>> 651 842-1001 fax >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com >>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brian > Franklin >>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:32 AM >>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> Gotta client that is moving to a VoIP PBX. Will need 10 concurrent calls >>> with ability to grow to 15. >>> >>> >>> >>> Which is better: >>> >>> >>> >>> a) Traditional PRI with unlimited Local, use Least Cost Routing for >>> Long Distance via SIP trunks via the Internet >>> >>> OR >>> >>> b) Flat rate SIP trunks which includes unlimited Local and Long >>> Distance (no T1 card needed), riding on Dedicated DSL or Internet T1 >>> >>> OR >>> >>> c) suggestions????????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Franklin >>> >>> www.ntginc.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>> >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz