In fact, it appears that the London city government takes the view that a minimum living wage is GBP 8.55, which works out to around GBP17200 in view of the formula 8.55 * 168 * 12.

And, someone earning that much would presumably keep more of it than someone earning 30k due to progressive tax structure.

So, this is a position demanding advanced, specialised OSS IP telephony skills while offering ~75% more than minimum wage, and considerably less in take-home terms.

-- Alex

On 04/30/2013 10:58 AM, Geraint Lee wrote:

Couldn't agree more, I live in London and 30k would not even come close
to cutting it. Also, I'm available for contract work ;)


On 30 April 2013 15:50, Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com
<mailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com>> wrote:

    On 04/30/2013 10:44 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

        LOL, I see Top Secret Clearance jobs in DC with the same duties
        offering
        $30k.  Obviously, that number is always negotiable and many just
        NEED
        the work.

        It is a "Me" workforce so I guess the "Me" generation fits in.

        What happened to the idea of getting your foot in the door in
        the mail
        room and working your way up?  Now, if it isn't $125k starting,
        forget
        it seems to be the prevailing attitude.

        I would take a great work environment and room to move up over the
        hostile, $125k, 24/7 on call, responsible for everything, completely
        stressed job anyday.

        People all have different motivators Alex.  It might not cut it
        for you,
        and I agree, it's low ball for anyone but a entry, which is what
        this
        seems to be, but negotiation, organization, ability to move up,
        be independent, level of life balance are just a few factors
        people look
        at, not just take home pay.

        $700/day tax free sounds great but isn't pleasant when you are in a
        hotspot in Iraq officially working 12/7 but obviously working 24/7.
           Money isn't everything.


    Where on earth did you get the idea that I was suggesting that $125k
    would be more appropriate for this position?  Your arse?  Far it be
    from me to sing lyrical encomiums to opulence and wealth.

    However, if you've ever been to London and computed the cost of
    living, in the city and well outside of it furthermore, this
    "whatever happened to starting out in the mailroom and moving on
    up?" idea would seem quite ludicrous.  The jokes practically write
    themselves at that point.

    No, money is most certainly not everything, but nobody with firm
    competency in the skills listed is going to be willing to consign
    themselves to the dystopian existence of an Industrial
    Revolution-era pauper, a cruel homage to Oliver Twist.  That's
    exactly what GBP30K in the greater London area would be.

    -- Alex


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