>>I'm not an expert on PRI, but maybe your telco is not passing on the early 
>>media to the caller.

Yes, I believe that to be the case as well.  My Telco has been...less than 
helpful.  They are blaming the PBX, so I'm looking for a way to prove that 
asterisk is doing things correctly and shift the blame back on them.

-Justin

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From: asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 9:27 AM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

Why do you want to use early media instead of using OOB signaling by using 
Hangup(17)?

I'm not an expert on PRI, but maybe your telco is not passing on the early 
media to the caller.

From: asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Justin Killen
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:23 PM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

I have tried it, yes - the results are the same.  When Busy() is called, the 
channel driver gets a message and opens the early media stream if it hasn't 
been opened already.  I have the Q.931 entry for the alerting message for 
"Progress Description: Inband information or appropriate pattern now available. 
(8)":

PRI Span: 8 > DL-DATA request
PRI Span: 8 > Protocol Discriminator: Q.931 (8)  len=9
PRI Span: 8 > TEI=0 Call Ref: len= 2 (reference 1885/0x75D) (Sent to originator)
PRI Span: 8 > Message Type: ALERTING (1)
PRI Span: 8 TEI=0 Transmitting N(S)=11, window is open V(A)=10 K=7
PRI Span: 8
PRI Span: 8 > Protocol Discriminator: Q.931 (8)  len=9
PRI Span: 8 > TEI=0 Call Ref: len= 2 (reference 1885/0x75D) (Sent to originator)
PRI Span: 8 > Message Type: ALERTING (1)
PRI Span: 8 > [1e 02 81 88]
PRI Span: 8 > Progress Indicator (len= 4) [ Ext: 1  Coding: CCITT (ITU) 
standard (0)  0: 0  Location: Private network serving the local user (1)
PRI Span: 8 >                               Ext: 1  Progress Description: 
Inband information or appropriate pattern now available. (8) ]


And it seems the Telco has received it on the other side:

------------Q931---------------------Q931 message-----------------------------

001 00001000 Protocol Discriminator : 8 - Q.931/I.145 user-ntwk call control msg

------------CRV----------------------Call Reference Value---------------------

002 xxxx0010 Length of CRV          : 2 -

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

003 .0111000 Reference value        : 56 -

  | 1....... Reference Flag         : 1 - To call ref originator

004 11011110 Reference value        : 222

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

005 x0000001 Message Type           : 1 - Alert message

------------QPARMS-------------------Q931 Parameters--------------------------

-------------------------------------Q931 Parameter---------------------------

006 x0011110 Parameter Name         : 30 - Progress Indicator

007 00000010 Parameter Length       : 2

------------PRGIND-------------------Progress Indicator-----------------------

008 ...x0001 Location               : 1 - Private network serving the local user

  | .00..... Coding Std.            : 0 - CCITT Standardized Coding

  | 1....... Extension Bit          : 1 - Last Octet

009 .0001000 Progress Description   : 8 - In-band info/an appr. pattern is now 
avlbl

  | 1....... Extension Bit          : 1 - Last Octet

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is (I assume) the opening of the early media stream.  I'm just not sure 
where to go from there.

-Justin
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From: 
asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com<mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com>
 [mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:59 AM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

Have you tried using Progress?

From: 
asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com<mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com>
 [mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Justin Killen
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:58 AM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

Sorry for confusing the issue, I should have stripped out that line from the 
dialplan as well.  Given just the busy() line:

exten => 1005,n,Busy(20)

The busy tone should(?) be generated from the PRI channel driver.  This is the 
tone that the Telco is saying is being sent incorrectly.  I've looked at the 
dahdi configs, and it is setup correctly to use US tones.

-Justin
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From: 
asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com<mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com>
 [mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:33 AM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

Run Progress before the playtones.   This is documented in 
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Early+Media+and+the+Progress+Application

--Eric

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 [mailto:asterisk-dev-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Justin Killen
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
Subject: [asterisk-dev] How to diagnose early media on a PRI

I asked this on the users list a week and a half ago but haven't gotten any 
response.  I'm hoping someone here with PRI/ISDN experience can help guide me 
in the right direction.

I have a dialplan (freepbx) that plays a busy signal in-band when an extension 
is busy (before an Answer).  Stripped down, it looks like this:
exten => 1005,n,PlayTones(busy)
exten => 1005,n,Busy(20)
Note that there is no Answer() prior to this.  Our trunk is a PRI.
When I call into this extension from outside, I get about 25 seconds of 
ringing, followed by a hangup.  Looking at the asterisk logs, 20 seconds of 
that delay is AFTER the PlayTones() function is invoked.  I talked with our 
Telco about this, and they want to refer to in-band tones prior to answer as a 
media cut-through.  The tech said that it is enabled on their end, and he did 
some test calls and got some ISDN trap logs.  He is saying that the PBX is 
playing the ring-back tone instead of the busy tone, but I don't think that's 
the case (If I add an Answer() to the dialplan, I do in fact hear the busy 
tone).
Is there anybody out there who has experience with reading/analyzing IDSN trap 
logs (Q931) that can help me narrow down where the issue is and how to fix it?

Thanks,
-Justin

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