> On April 3, 2015, 6:37 a.m., Corey Farrell wrote:
> > /trunk/main/manager.c, line 4873
> > <https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/4391/diff/3/?file=72904#file72904line4873>
> >
> >     If we successfully ran the command, it seems unsafe to claim failure.  
> > We have to assume the the caller doesn't actually care about any of the CLI 
> > output, they only care about having the command perform an action.  So I 
> > think we need to respond with success if the command ran.  I'm leaning 
> > towards thinking that this error should be provided through a single 
> > "Output: Command response construction error\r\n", so move astman_start_ack 
> > to just below ast_cli_command.
> >     
> >     On a related issue, there are a couple errors that can occur in 
> > ast_cli_command_full which print error messages and return success.  I 
> > don't know if it's safe to modify ast_cli_command_full to return errors for 
> > more situations, it might be worth looking at to allow us to trust the 
> > return value of ast_cli_command_full.  CLI commands themselves can return 
> > an error, but this error is not returned by ast_cli_command_full.  It would 
> > be nice if this action could use the return value from ast_cli_command_full 
> > to determine if it should respond success or failure.
> 
> gareth wrote:
>     If the caller is executing any of the '<module> show ...' commands then 
> they likely care about the output. In this case, I think it would be better 
> to provide a more descriptive error message to the caller so they can detect 
> if the command was executed.
>     
>     Yes, ast_cli_commmand_full should indicate whether the command failed, I 
> will modify it so that an Error response can sent if the command fails. There 
> don't appear to be any callers of that function who check the return code.

I do not feel this issue is resolved.  If a command has side-effects, we should 
respond with Success/Failure based on if the command ran - regardless of our 
(in)ability to process output.  Since there is no way to determine if a CLI 
command is meant to retrieve information or manipulate it, we have to assume 
that it is manipulating something.  So I agree that descriptive error messages 
are useful, we need to avoid lying to the caller by claiming that the command 
failed to run if it did run.

For times where people are just retrieving information, couldn't we respond 
with success, put the error in 'Message:', and provide no 'Output:' headers?  
This way if you care about the output, you can detect the lack of output.


- Corey


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On April 9, 2015, 1:05 a.m., gareth wrote:
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> (Updated April 9, 2015, 1:05 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Asterisk Developers.
> 
> 
> Bugs: ASTERISK-24730
>     https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-24730
> 
> 
> Repository: Asterisk
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> This patch adds a blank line between the headers and the output in the 
> Command action response. The reason for this change is to make it easier to 
> determine where the headers end and the output from the command starts.
> 
> Currently, to parse a response to a Command action, one has to:
> 
> 1. Read one line, if line is "Response: Error", parse the remaining as a 
> standard AMI response and stop.
> 2. Read one more line - or two if you used an ActionID - those lines are the 
> headers.
> 3. Then read everything up to "--END COMMAND--\r\n\r\n".
> 
> That could be changed to:
> 
> 1. Read standard AMI response.
> 2. If "Response: Follows", then read everything up to "--END 
> COMMAND--\r\n\r\n".
> 
> The AMI version has been increased to 2.8.0 as this is a protocol change and 
> so that clients detect the new behavior.
> 
> Adding a blank line should not cause older parsers to fail as they have to 
> read everything up to "--END COMMAND--\r\n\r\n" anyway.
> 
> Adding a blank line will also not cause the AMI to HTML/XML encoder to fail 
> to separate the headers from the output as it checks for the presence of a 
> ":" character, which a blank line does not contain.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   /trunk/main/manager.c 434448 
>   /trunk/main/cli.c 434448 
>   /trunk/include/asterisk/manager.h 434448 
>   /trunk/UPGRADE.txt 434448 
> 
> Diff: https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/4391/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Connected to manager, issued 'core show uptime' command and verified that 
> there was a blank line between the headers and output.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> gareth
> 
>

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