----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US
> I'm right here ... where are you? Right about here.. > > Just kidding, I'm in Stratford, Ontario, Canada I'm in Lethbridge Alberta. > > As an aside, I looked at switching to your company for internet access from > Bell HSE but switched to istop.com instead. My company? What made you choose istop.com? > > We have a branch office in Kemptville (currently using Bell HSE - but only > until I get time to get them switched to something else) that I'd like to > connect to here via VoIP > > I have ordered two digium dev lite kits to try to connect the two (with > asterisk) I'm looking at doing something similar, but I can't my asterisk box to work right. > > For two small offices, it's questionable whether it's worth the effort ... > but it's a learning experience that will hopefully pay off by easing the > opening of additional branch offices and providing an integrated whole It might be. Let me know how that goes. _____________________________ Kris Cote Director of Internet Engineering StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Storm3 > > Communications > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 22:39 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > > > > > Brian, where are you? > > > > > > _____________________________ > > Kris Cote > > Director of Internet Engineering > > StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > > > > > > I don't think I'd be stepping on toes if I told you guys we're paying > > about > > > $35/month per analog line with callerid, line hunting, call > > waiting, etc, > > etc > > > (basically the works minus voice mail) through AT&T > > > > > > That's Canadian so you'll have to work out the currency conversion > > > ie $1 USD = $1.65 CND > > > > > > > > > Jon Pounder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey I hear ya, I am in much the same situation. > > > > > > > >PRI or channelized T1 is not really a cost effective solution until you > > are > > > >over at least 10 lines, and need features like the DID or > > callerid, hunt, > > > >etc. that you would pay a few bucks more each per line so the per line > > > >analog cost would have been driven up over $50/line. > > > > > > > >My thoughts were BRI's as well since they work out to about $40/B > > channel, > > > >and you can add and delete in fairly inexpensive groups of 2. > > You get all > > > >the CLASS features of the PRI, but without having to buy a ton of lines > > to > > > >get them. > > > > > > > >BRI channel bank is one option I guess, but fairly rare and expensive. > > > > > > > >I would love to find a bri to pri T1 multiplexer at a > > reasonable cost. I > > > >have seen a few for sale minus the BRI cards so no deal on them. > > > > > > > >The ones I have seen do much more than is actually needed here > > so likely > > > >the cost is excessive when bought new. > > > > > > > >I am still not really clear why the isdn modems that seem so common > > > >can't/won't work in this situation. Is it simply an issue of software > > does > > > >not exist ? Does the modem do something other than simply dump the > > > >composite digital datastream into the serial port ? I am > > familar with how > > a > > > >channelized T1 can be output/input via a v35 HSSI port - Does this same > > > >concept not extend to the BRI isdn and a regular speed serial port ? Is > > the > > > >issue that a conventional serial port is topped out at 115k > > and bri would > > > >be 64+64+16 ? If so, how does the modem work in bonded bearer channel > > mode > > > >for data ? > > > > > > > >Anyone got answers ? > > > > > > > > > > > >At 06:40 AM 3/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>Hello! > > > >> > > > >>Several of my customers would like to add a backup to their Internet > > > >>connection. ISDN is a good solution: decently fast for a > > dial-up-type > > > >>connection, yet still faily affordable. While I was at it, I > > decided to > > > >>look at a couple of more creative telephone service options > > to possibly > > > >>improve their service or lower costs at the same time. These > > customers > > > >>range from having just a couple of POTS lines without a key > > system up to > > > >>as many as 18 POTS lines into systems such as AT&T Merlin or Nortel > > > >>Norstar systems. > > > >> > > > >>My first thought on the higher end was a PRI line. However, the cost > > > >>seems *very* prohibitive. The average cost for a PRI line was > > $550/month, > > > >>just for "dial tone"! I've heard others say that PRI becomes cost > > > >>effective in the 8 line range, but the cost for the office > > with 14 lines > > > >>($25/line * 14 lines) is only $350. It would take 22 lines before the > > PRI > > > >>would equal the cost of individual POTS lines! > > > >> > > > >>As an aside, I did a survey of several of my customers with 10-30 > > > >>employees. Most of them have POTS lines only (from between 4 and 10) > > fed > > > >>into some sort of PBX. Only one of them has a PRI line, and they wish > > > >>they hadn't gone that way: they thought they would need more > > lines than > > > >>they do, and now they feel that they're way over-buying. > > > >> > > > >>Am I missing something? When is a PRI competitive with POTS? And if > > I'm > > > >>not missing something, is there an alternative between POTS and a PRI, > > > >>particularly for 5-15 lines? None of the telephone companies I called > > > >>offered channelized T1 options for local service (let alone frac-T1), > > only > > > >>PRI. Are there other options? > > > >> > > > >>Finally, any alternatives for smaller companies? I tried to get a > > simple > > > >>BRI ISDN line for Internet backup for the company with 18 POTS lines. > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Ameritech (excuse me, SBC) charges $10/month more if you > > > >>don't > > sign > > > >>a 36-month contract and wouldn't give it to them without a > > credit check, > > > >>several pieces of company information, the names and telephone numbers > > of > > > >>at least two officers of the company and a personal guarantee from an > > > >>officer! This for a customer who has had 18 POTS lines for > > *15* YEARS! > > > >> > > > >>I hate SBC... > > > >> > > > >>Thank you for reading my rant. I would greatly appreciate any > > information > > > >>or suggestions you might be able to give me. > > > >> > > > >>Tim Massey > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>Asterisk-Users mailing list > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users