>>>>> "Steven" == Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steven> On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 09:02, Chris Earle (CBL) wrote: >> Arrrrgh >> >> I hate trying to sift through all these messages and keep track of >> the various threads going on ......... >> >> Who else on here prefers the newsgroup/threaded approach? If you >> haven't already, check out news.gmane.org for mailing lists turned >> into newsgroups readable by news readers.......
Steven> What you need is to get a decent mail reader. Those of us that Steven> complain regularly about people changing subjects in the middle Steven> of a thread already know the benefits of threaded email Steven> reading. Why bother with a newsgroup because you choose to stay Steven> on windows and use outbreak express >> only problem being that this list requires list membership before >> posting............<Shrug> Steven> And this is a good thing. Otherwise spammers only need the list Steven> address to spam us all, and you get this also on Steven> newsgroups. Right now the only risk is the fact that the email Steven> addresses we use here are archived publicly in an easy to Steven> harvest method. I think that is the most risk I wish to Steven> undertake. It's a real pity that the news.gmane.org interface is one-way only. GMANE makes my life a lot easier, I would never be able to subscribe to all those lists. asterisk-users is one of the very few lists that I am unable to properly access through GMANE. newsgroups are realy better than mailing lists, people. It's not a question of your mail reader (MUA), but of instantly available archives (press a key and access the entire history of a thread, even if you have just subscribed), bandwidth (I can't always afford to download 60 messages per day from asterisk-users when I'm on a GPRS link), and access (you get *instant* access to hundreds of mailing lists). As to spam, GMANE has an extremely neat spam-reporting and filtering solution, so I actually see almost on spam there. Please notice that in order to post to GMANE you have to prove you are not a spambot, so spam can come in from the mailing lists only. When people report it (single keypress in Gnus), it gets crossposted to gmane.spam.detected, so you can easily kill it based on the Xref: header. So, please don't judge GMANE by USENET standards, it's an entirely different thing. And it's a good thing. --J.
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