At 11:57 AM -0800 2007/2/21, Brad Templeton wrote:

On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:08:15PM -0700, Natambu Obleton wrote:
 Why not make it like DNS and have each provider have their lookups
 deligated to a local server and then each ISP will run a caching
 server that will use a serial number system to get updates.. just like
 DNS.

 I know there are lot more DNS lookups then CNAM lookups per hour...
 isn't there? :)


Hey, we could even build a system where DNS can be used to take any
phone number and look up data about it, not just a name, but even
a URI to redirect calls to for it, a source of presence info and
more.

What a great idea!   Unfortunately, since phone numbers are
believed to be owned by telcos and not by individuals, such
a system would probably make the mistake of delegating control
over the numbers to the telcos, who would feel no particular
motive to help people bypass what they sell, and so I predict
it will languish for a long time with no real deployment in the
USA.

:-)

Yeah, late reply here.

If ENUM were viable, this concept already exists for the most part, at least in draft form:

 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-cnam-05.txt

However, I don't believe for a second (though I did years ago) that ENUM will ever leave the control of the carriers, as you also insinuate. I'm singing to the choir, though, since you already have a Freenum/ISN dialing method (http://www.freenum.org/) for your organization, Brad. Encouragingly, the ISN dialing method does scale quite well for the CNAM-type data to be put in the DNS with the CNAM extension draft referenced above, unlike E.164 which is more cumbersome, to say the least.

In other news: I'm looking for an inexpensive CNAM provider via HTTP. Low volume at first, but probably ramping up a bit over time to a few thousand lookups a day. Anyone out there providing this service with a "low friction" business model?

JT



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