On Friday 16 May 2008 11:00:09 Steve Totaro wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Tilghman Lesher wrote: > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:11:11 Steve Totaro wrote: > >> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Tilghman Lesher wrote: > >> > Digium is under no obligation to give you numbers for your own > >> > hardware. That's up to you (and you get to control your own set of > >> > variables). > >> > >> While under no obligation, it certainly would help sales. > > > > Whose sales? If you're talking about the appliances, then yes, I'm sure > > the publication of those numbers help with sales. If you mean your own > > sales, well, you're right, Digium's numbers probably don't help your > > sales. You could certainly put together a lab and do your own testing. > > Why don't you do that? > > Sales in general. You don't need to benchmark everything, just a few > basic benchmarks, maybe gear it to your hardware and SIP as a gateway, > then build from there. Most companies do this.
Precisely. The numbers Digium gives are geared to their own machines. > >> This is in the style of legacy proprietary systems and anther reason > >> why the sale cycle goes a little tougher than a custom job. Asterisk > >> with FreePBX (and maybe Druid) eliminate these artificial constraints > >> on usage. > > > > Yes, but the point of those constraints is to permit support a manageable > > job. Yes, you could probably add 2 or 3 or 10 or 15 to the number of > > calls that a particular machine could handle, but from a support > > perspective, it doesn't matter how many the machine could theoretically > > handle, it matters how many it could handle in the particular > > installation in a supportable configuration (those are all those pesky > > variables we've been talking about). > > Maybe that is what the official corporate answer is or, you were > brainwashed to believe, but I tend to think it is to sell SMB and > Enterprise software and support. It is all about money. I didn't > fall off the turnip truck yesterday. Now who's on the attack here? Instead of taking issue with the logic, you're personally attacking me, and I do take offense. The logic is sound, and it is precisely the reason why we say "X machine supports Y users". It makes it easier for the support department, that they don't have to deal with edge cases of "Well, if you're doing the maximum transcoding AND recording AND conferences AND a few other things, then maybe it won't support Y users." No, we want the numbers solid; we never want it to be said that we sold what we could not support. -- Tilghman _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users