Quote "Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. "
This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software is developed in a CMM environment. It has a formal test methodology and uses Automated Testing on EACH new release to ensure that 100% of the software that functioned in the Last Release, actually works in this release. Further, there is mandatory "soak-testing" for all new software. Sorry, anyone who wants to compare Professional TELCO GRADE software development with Open Source is just Completely and Totally freakin clueless. Alex Balashov wrote: > T G wrote: > >> I'm a CCIE and CCVP. I have worked in the Cisco TSBU on both CCM and >> Telepresence systems I have two IP patents for the VoiP Lite protocols >> and have been designing and building OSS IPBXs for companies including >> Google going back to 2001. >> >> I'm not mentioning any of that to be jerk I mentioned it to say I'm as >> qualified as anyone to to compare the CCM and OSS servers. >> >> The only fair way to compare the two is a list of weights features, for >> example if cost is your biggest feature then OSS is better, if support >> is your biggest feature than Cisco wins. >> >> When a customer is comparing the costly (TCO) and best supported systems >> in the world with hundreds of thousands installed systems for the large >> global companies on the planted backed by 54,000 employees and over $25b >> in the bank vs, a FREE system with one layer of support maybe two layers >> of support, the features don't even come in the evaluation in my opinion. >> >> I once asked a manager why did you buy the CCM and he said no one ever >> got fired for buying Cisco if anything wrong, If push the OSS and it >> goes I could loose my job. >> >> I would get a list of the important features, because there is no answer >> to your question of which is better. >> > > Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM > and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not > worse. Depending on how critical the bugs or other support exigencies, > the TCO can be driven way up. > > Except with the OSS community, you report the bug, and usually get a > quick fix - even if it's a significant issue for you, not necessarily > most of the installed base. If by chance that proves not to be the > case, the source code is available, and you can fix it yourself. > > With Cisco, you pay for expensive support and get to file some complaint > with the TAC. Yay. > > There are many, many angles from which onec an look at this in one's TCO > / OPEX formula. > > _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
