On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote: > The interesting thing about the UK is that you folks did local loop > deregulation right, unlike in the US, where it's vicious and toxic and > is mostly a story about the bewildering multitude of ways in which the > incumbents screw competitive CLECs.
For various values of "right" :) Number porting is still a PITA. > No, the results of the BT bifurcation isn't perfect, but having even an > "officially" neutral LoopCo like OpenReach would go a long way in the US. Yes. "officially" ... Some would think that in practice, it's not though. However that's politics for you :) Gordon > > Gordon Henderson wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, randulo wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Inspired by a recent rant about one particular provider, I am getting >>> very curious about something I've never mastered. I'd like someone to >>> explain this here or at least post a link or two that can educate me >>> and probably countless others who have no knowledge in this area. I'm >>> sure there are several of you reading this that know all about the >>> subject. >>> >>> What are the various business models of these providers, in particular >>> where are they on the food chain of the DID or trunks they offer? >>> >>> For example, I have accounts with several well-known providers of SIP, >>> IAX trunks, hosted pbx and DID. Each of these is located in a >>> different area, and I would assume they have different peering and >>> rates they pay to their upstreams. Without naming names, could someone >>> tackle this? It might help people know what they are getting into when >>> the open an account. >>> >>> What are the best *types* of companies for each category: asterisk >>> testing and home use, small business, larger business, General >>> Motors... >> >> "What country are you in?" is always a good start. Remember VoIP is >> global, as are the members of this list. >> >> For example, I'm in the UK and here we have a good selection of both >> inbound and outbound providers, although sometimes it's not obvious where >> they are in the food-chain. (Or who's food-chain they're part of!) >> >> For me, I'm what I might view as a "middle man" in the food-chain, I want >> inbound and outbound providers who's own equipment connects directly to >> the PSTN, or as directly as possible. I don't want someone who I connect >> to via VoIP who then connects via VoIP to someone else who connects to the >> PSTN... (Although that's what I offer my customers... Hmm! However I like >> to think I offer more flexability, support and options than the top-level >> guys... Seems to work for me!) >> >> So in the UK we have a small number of people in the same boat as me - >> connecting to inbound and outbound providers and selling-on these services >> either in the virtual form, or providing hardware and "trunks" (SIP and/or >> IAX) as required. My own value-add is to go one step further and provide >> the PBX (and Internet connectivity, if required) as well. Sort of one-stop >> shop. >> >> There is also a plethora of providers aimed strictly at the residential >> market, and those who are trying to sell (expensive IMO) hosted solutions >> to the SME. >> >> For me, inbound is more the issue than outbound, as I register numbers for >> inbound via the wholesalers who are then the only people who can route >> calls to that number to me, but I can send calls out via more than one >> operator (as long as they allow me to present outgoing CID from other >> operators) If an inbound operator fails, then all those numnbers are lost >> for the time being, so it pays to do a bit of research! >> >> And that's what it boils down to - research. This could be by contacting >> the ITSPs directly, by word of mouth on various forums, etc. and so on. In >> the UK we have the ITSPA - http://www.itspa.org.uk/ and most of the main >> players are members, as well as some of the lesser ones, so it's a good >> place to start. >> >> Gordon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > -- > Alex Balashov > Evariste Systems > Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ > Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 > Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 > Mobile : (+1) (678) 237-1775 > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
