On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Steve Totaro<stot...@totarotechnologies.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Tim Nelson<tnel...@rockbochs.com> wrote: >> ----- "Steve Totaro" <stot...@asteriskhelpdesk.com> wrote: >>> Just use SIP and solve all your problems. >> >> I seem to be noticing a common element to your posts about IAX. :-) >> >> I've been successfully using IAX in a large scale environment with no >> problems... yet. Can you shed some light on the reasoning behind your >> obvious dislike of IAX2? It is supposed to be the 'killer' of SIP from a >> usability standpoint (NAT traversal is quick to my mind...). BUT, is it just >> not robust enough in your experience? Are there inherent problems with the >> protocol itself? Is this changing now that IAX2 has it's own RFC? Is it the >> implementation within Asterisk that is the problem? I'm very interested to >> to know where your disdain comes from. :-) >> >> Thanks Steve! >> >> --Tim >> > > First define large scale. It certainly means different things to > different people. > > Second, It comes from huge amounts of audio problems over many, many > years, and many, many implementations. > > I actually don't have a disdain for it, it has made me a good deal of > money by fixing ITSPs/carrier's audio issues by switching them to SIP > and still does so I have a fondness for it. Keep up the sub par > protocol, it helps with the balance sheet! > > Third, it will never kill SIP. > > First of all, Digium owns the name and we have seen what they are > willing to do to attack people for trademark or copyright infringement > (think about the Google Adwords debacle and the the Open letter to > Digium drafted by Trixter that I am not sure was ever fully addressed > by Digium.) > > It would have to be renamed or something. I think the same thing of > DAHDI. They want control over the the names Inter Asterisk Exchange > and Digium (whatever the heck the rest of it means.) > > Second, SIP is the industry standard. Only a couple of goofy phones > do IAX2 as far as I know, some crappy handsets I wouldn't even bother > testing if offered as a free demo unit. SNOM might now, I am not sure > but I think I read interest in it or it was actually accomplished. > SNOM is OK but I was never a big fan. > > When I see it on a Polycom, Cisco, NEC, 3Com, or any other major > vendor's phones or platforms, then I may rethink my ideas. > > If 3Com and Digium are partnered up now, how come the NBX for V3000 > doesn't support IAX2? They do have SIP. > > Second, there are work arounds for just about every downfall of SIP, > like NAT traversal and the like. > > Third, ALL REAL TIME VOICE traffic is on a single port. There is a > big issue there, I won't elaborate, but just think about it. > > SIP is here to stay until some other protocol comes about, but > certainly not IAX2. It will be along the evolution of H323 to SIP to > X., but not IAX,lol. > > Do you realize that most providers are dropping IAX2 support, even > IAX.cc recommends SIP, gotta wonder why? > > Maybe it is all good now, but I won't bank my reputation on it. I use > what I know works well, period. > > Even unnamed Digium Employees have poo pooed IAX2, albeit a year or two ago. > > It looks good on paper, didn't perform well historically, and now just > like anything that I have lost trust in, it has to earn my trust back > and that is not easy. >
I think a more useful thing to push for or put effort into is making Speex an industry standard codec. Now that would make alot of sense for everybody. -- Thanks, Steve Totaro +18887771888 (Toll Free) +12409381212 (Cell) +12024369784 (Skype) _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
