The real problem here is that people shouldn't be using callerid as an authentication scheme. Lots of people have had the ability to set arbitrary clid for years and yet banks and other institutions have stupidly used it to authenticate callers. Complaints should be directed to them and not the VoIP industry.


-brian


Alex wrote:

Here is what you can possibly do:
        - Steal calling cards if they are useing caller id authentication
scheme
        - Get access to personal banking information (Citibank uses callerid
as part of authentication process.)
        - Purchase goods and services backed up by calling verification.

I can go on and on for hours. Main point of story that [EMAIL PROTECTED] will hit the 
fan
and VOIP will be regulated badly. Especially if some known terrorist will
confess about using Vonage in Afaganistan.....or some of drug dealers/weapon
traders will be cought .....

Bug generraly author of that article is an idiot. He does not understand the
difference beteween VOIP and ISDN PRI.



-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of listas iPfone Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID

This is very interesting...

Regulations..USA...

But... what can i do faking a caller id? stolen what? what is the point?

miklos

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why regulate?  nobody regulates the return address on a letter sent via
USPS.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Chris Foster wrote:


The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk  "..the most powerful tool for
manipulating and accessing CPN data.."

I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid's after this
article; i've been wanting that feature from voicepluse for a long
time.



These kind of things will be reason (excuse) for Voip to be regulated



Perhaps service providers who allow the Caller*ID to be set should
insist that customers provide evidence that they own the phone numbers
that they want to publish, and then limit the customers' choices to
only the numbers in their approved list.  Calling the customer on the
provided number(s) would be an easy way to check, and a setup fee
could be levied to cover the provider's time and expenses, if required.

Being able to discover a "blocked" Caller*ID is another matter.  Both
are good areas for regulation.

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