What started out as a good thing for the community has veared it ugly head and will come back to bite us in the ass. I give my respect to the two companies that decided to put themselves 'out there' and attempted to bring 'real world' certifications of knowledge in an area that is unregulated, open, and currently has no measurement of how much one person has over another.
What makes me different than the person next door selling the same solution. We both have access to the hardware, software and newsgroups. What is there to tell the customer that _I_ am better suited to solve the customers' problem or implement a solution that will work?? Nothing! We are faced with a growing install base and many who put together systems are doing it for the first time. Sure any customers will get fed up with Asterisk and vie never to use it again. Others, like many customers' that I have found like it but need a someone with expertise to help them through the tough configs. Will Asterisk certification help me, depends. My strength not only lie in the configuration and modification of Asterisk but in the whole telecom and networking expeiriance that I have. This is new stuff, you must know about MTU, E1, T1, PRI, FXO, FXS, TCP, UDP, Linux, Iptables, http, Nat, etc. Tell me why you can still talk to someone clearly, but are not able to use a modem past 2400 baud at a hotel, and you'll understand codecs and how they interoperate. We conserned ourselves with being 'left out' of a certification that may not actually reflect what we know is needed to do what we do. I have never or probably never hired someing because of certifications alone. You got um, good! Go fix the problem, that was not covered in 'the book'!! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Voip Business Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:41 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Another Asterisk Certification Hello Guys, I think this is not bad (Certification) While is a real certification like Cisco , Novell, etc. how many of us have a cisco certification or even Micro-$hit. In my point of vew this 3K buck are well spended if I want to have the skills quick to put hand-on. and as per Brian comment , not just a simple config. just think about how much you guys charge per hour, and how many hours you all ready spend in learning, those 3000 bucks are really a joke. I think those certified guys need to place the training agenda in the Commercial posrt. I really like tho se certifications (Y) Regards HA On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:53:47 -0600, Brian West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No disrespect here but... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME!!! > > This is a joke right? I has to be. :P > > bkw > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Taylor > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:24 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial > > Discussion > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Another Asterisk Certification > > > > Alternate Certification > > > > For those of you who can't (or won't) shell-out the $3000+ for the 5 day > > certification class, > > here's a quicker way AND IT'S HALF THE MONEY! > > > > www.metrotel.net/asterisk.htm > > > > Asterisk is a good product. > > Some people "need" certification. > > > > A mature "product" needs "certified" professionals. > > Asterisk is maturing. > > > > Remember the Certified Novell Engineers? > > There a a lot of people that know everything about Novell who never got > > the white lab coat. > > > > There is a place for cetification. > > It helps all of us, even those who never become "certified". > > > > > > -- > > James Taylor > > 3505 Summerhll Road > > Suite 11 > > Texarkana, Texas 75503 > > 903-793-1956 > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users