Hi;

Just to a a little perspective. The closest equivalent Dialogic board (i.e. connects 4 T1's to a pci bus) is just under $7000 USD per board. Now while this isn't comparing apples to apples since the Dialogic board has more onboard processing services it does give a reference data point. The Digium board at just under $1500 USD looks quite good based on that comparison...

Later;
Tim

On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Craig Guy wrote:

[rant]
I wish my local reseller would 'dump' the product, or at least offer it
cheaper without support. The digium PRI cards IMHO are way too expensive
for those of us who are familiar with them and are only interested in
warranty support. I will probably soon be buying another 5 of them and
spending over $A10,000 in the process. The cards are more expensive than
the server they're going into (Dell poweredge 750's). When a GPL'd hardware
design costs more than an entire proprietary server (including chassis,
motherboard, dual hard disks and remote access card) then there is something
very wrong in the market. I do not possibly see how a quarter length PCI
card should cost more than an entire rack mount server. IMHO bring on the
competition, Asterisk should divorce itself from Digium, the sooner the
better. Asterisk is a software product and should stand alone and not be
subsidised by the hardware. Marks salary should come from selling trainig
and Asterisk support services, not hardware. If Digium gets money from
selling Digum hardware, where then is the incentive for Asterisk to support
alternative hardware (BRI for example). Imagine if Linus was employed by
Intel, Linux would only be an empty shell of its current self with no
support for embedded platforms, Motorola CPU's, WRT54G's, etc.
[/rant]


Craig

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Svensson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sangoma VS. Digium


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Matteo Brancaleoni wrote:

I hate to say that, but the problem is that Digium doesn't do this.
They allow resellers to do market dumping, by not imposing fixed
list prices to resellers, they also compete with they're own
distributors/resellers by offering the cards online and by offering
services directly to end users.
In this way they're destroying they're own reseller network
and there's no commercial gain into supporting the end user
(as resellers).

Resellers are almost universally a useless money-sink. Most add no value
at all, they are simply another logistics point. Distributors, on the
other hand, are usually very knowlegable and are able to support their
customers (the resellers) quite well.


My advice: always *always* buy from as early in the channel as possible.
Prices are better and the support is _way_ better.


Of course, if you are not familiar with the problem space for which you
are purchasing a solution then resellers can add a lot of value.


Peter


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