Can CISCO 837 with 4 Ethernet port be used as an alternative? Would I be able 
to aggregate providers with the 4 LAN ports on it?
837 also has a DSL port.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps380/ps4874/product_data_sheet09186a008010e5c5.html

Thanks,Bruce

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:28:13 -0500
> Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
> 
> 
> Drew,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks a lot for weighing in on this. I appreciate it. I was almost buying 
> WIC-4ESW.
> 
>  
> 
> This could also affect the aggregated speed if I use a WIC-1ADSL because that 
> is yet on another VLAN.
> 
>  
> 
> However, the route is to support 40 Aastra phone only (with SIP trunking to 
> outside) and maybe 10mbps is going to work (no computer on the network) but I 
> would like a more solid solution in case of expansion. Is there any other of 
> the Cisco router which would do 100mbps at a reasonable price that you can 
> recommend? Please remember the multi-wan requirement. 
> 
>  
> 
> If worse comes to worse and no options I may drop the RJ-11 requirement and 
> not use Bell at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bruce
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:05:23 -0500
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
> > 
> > I've used the WIC-4ESW in the past.
> > 
> > You can assign each of the ports to a different VLAN to create up to 4 
> > more routed ethernet interfaces. However, despite each switchport being 
> > 100Mb, the interface between the WIC-4ESW and the router is only 10Mb.
> > 
> > Traffic between switchports on the same VLAN will be 100Mb but traffic 
> > between VLANS will be seriously limited as it has to pass through the 
> > 10Mb pipe to the router twice.
> > 
> > In Bruce's scenario, traffic would not pass between switchports but 
> > aggregate Internet bandwidth would be limited to around 6Mb (10Mb in 
> > theory only).
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Drew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bill Sandiford wrote:
> > > To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the 
> > > WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only.
> > >
> > > Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 
> > > port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it 
> > > may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and 
> > > vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, 
> > > but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able 
> > > to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be 
> > > able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite)
> > >
> > > I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work 
> > > for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do 
> > > some testing with it (as time permits).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > From: Bruce N [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM
> > > To: Bill Sandiford; [email protected]; asterisk Mailing
> > > Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option.
> > >
> > > Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port.
> > >
> > > I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's 
> > > possible with this router. Providers are:
> > >
> > > Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL
> > > Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ?
> > > Sattalite - RJ-45 interface = ?
> > > POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ?
> > >
> > > So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 
> > > and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would 
> > > definitely be a bonus.
> > >
> > > I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill 
> > > suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 
> > > base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base?
> > >
> > > The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one 
> > > port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router 
> > > and no 100Base WICs.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >> From: [email protected]
> > >> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500
> > >> Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
> > >>
> > >> I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of 
> > >> Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The 
> > >> lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be 
> > >> annoying in a business environment.
> > >>
> > >> We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available 
> > >> routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of 
> > >> the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just 
> > >> locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird 
> > >> stuff.
> > >>
> > >> For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all 
> > >> of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You 
> > >> can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for< $100. I think we 
> > >> bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the 
> > >> router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL 
> > >> cards and bond the links with MLPPP.
> > >>
> > >> The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single 
> > >> DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the 
> > >> great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright 
> > >> awesome...they just never need to be rebooted.
> > >>
> > >> The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be 
> > >> fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no 
> > >> wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of 
> > >> stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do).
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Bill
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Wai Vii [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM
> > >> To: TAUG Technical
> > >> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
> > >>
> > >> Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it
> > >> just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded
> > >> on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface
> > >> more cumbersome.
> > >>
> > >> Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo
> > >> routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to
> > >> spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard.
> > >>
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