Angus Comber wrote:
> Hello
> 
> ISDN BRI is really predominant in Europe.  Certainly in UK it is big.  A 
> business with say 4-8 external lines is more likely to have ISDN BRI than 
> analog in UK.  I believe it is also true for Germany and Europe.  Realise 
> this is not true for North America.
> 
> I don't think adding BRISTUFF support would be a big deal.  It could be 
> added as an option.
> 
> If it helps I am happy to provide a i586 box (VIA) with QuadBRI card 
> installed.  Easiest if I just open port ssh for someone to log in.  But 
> willing to ship the box to you if that helps.
> 
> I suppose really aiming this at Kris.  But just trying to raise issue of 
> BRISTUFF again.  It would make a big difference for us Europeans.
> 
> Angus

Angus,

        I certainly understand the predominance of ISDN in Europe.  Thank you 
for offering a test machine, but as I have said 100 times before, 
several problems still exist:

1) Different implementations.  There are still three or four different 
ISDN implementations that people use based on their 
experience/knowledge/hardware/Asterisk version/phase of the moon/etc. 
As a binary distro, what am I supposed to use?  Clearly I can't make 
everyone happy!!!

2)  Hardware.  You have offered a machine for testing.  This is a very 
generous offer, but it doesn't really help that much.  Can you guarantee 
that this machine will be available to me for as long as AstLinux 
exists?  What if something happens to it?  To you?  Etc, etc.  I would 
hate for an AstLinux release to delayed because I can't get access to my 
BRIStuff testing machine in the UK somewhere...

        Overall, this whole ISDN thing has been most troubling because the HUGE 
MAJORITY of my downloads (and thus users) are from the United States, 
where ISDN-BRI is practically non-existent. Yet (for whatever reason) 
ISDN-BRI makes up a disproportionate number of the complaints on this 
list.  Many, many people have been able to build much more complicated 
software with the existing development environment.  There is no reason 
you or anyone else can't build BRIStuff or hire someone to do it.

        I have a new build environment that will be ready for an ALPHA ALPHA 
release sometime this weekend that will make it even easier to build 
BRIStuff (or whatever else you want).  I'm just finishing up getting 
some basic, core packages to work (vsftpd, mini_httpd, php).  I'll be 
ready to release something, but I can't guarantee that it will even 
work...  But hey, that's what testing is for! :)


-- 
Kristian Kielhofner
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